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I don’t think this community is a stronghold of linux, as you can see in the comments. We need to start from somewhere.
I wish I could just keep upvoting this.
I’ll add, want to see your average person roll their eyes and say “nope”, just tell them they have to manually edit a bunch of config files to get going. How much about your car do you need to know to start your car and get somewhere?
Personally I’m tired of people telling disgruntled Windows users to switch to Linux.
Linux is not your backup plan, it’s not a “Windows alternative”. Yes, there are projects out there that try to make Linux easier for Windows users, and honestly they can fuck right off. Way too many people are trying to dumb down this incredibly powerful operating system to expand the market into the “gamers” and the “grannies who want to browse the web and send e-mail”.
Just… just stop.
But why even care if some random loser gets fucked by Microsoft? It’s like the religious idiots out there who don’t believe in global warming and hate trans people: you can’t deprogram stupid. It’s like waging a war against bears taking a shit in rivers.
It’s an operating system, you fucking dweeb. Your weird moralizing only alienates potential users. And guess what? Without users, a thing dies.
Dweeb!?! How do you know that? Leave me alone you malevolent hacker.
The lack of self-awareness in this comment is depressing
Linux bros have been told this for literally decades. They’ll never get it. As long as I can’t use my air pods or even the built in fingerprint reader for my laptop, plug and play, I won’t even try making the switch.
Linux is serverware with a barely working GUI and people are still talking about “just switch”.
My airpods and fingerprint reader (framework 16) work fine on Fedora, sometimes it just be like that.
Linux is everywhere and doing everything already. Windows only continues to exist because business majors are in charge and they are fucking dumb.
Did you give it a try recently?
I agree with the first part of what you said, but I disagree with your last sentence.
I have been using Linux on my desktop PCs and laptops since 2017 and it’s been working great for me, even playing games. Honestly, I probably play more games on Linux than I did back when I was on Windows lol
Can’t spell “copilot” without “cop”.
you can definetly spell “linux” without “cop”
Former Win10 user here, also a former MS employee, now on Mint. I never even heard of Recall but holy crap on a cracker, Microsoft - seriously? SERIOUSLY?
You guys have absolutely lost your fucking minds. My advice is to make Microsoft great again by quitting and forming a bunch of startups, where you can work on innovations that are actually good and useful. For the sake of your own sanity.
I firmly believe this will go the way of Cortana once the AI bubble bursts. What I’m more concerned about is the normalization of terrible security and privacy practices.
Windows is awful. Why do you want that decaying ship with rotten wood to float?
Windows is malware. If you give the slightest shit about your privacy, switch ASAP
Is ASAP Linux a variant of Asahi that I’m not hip enough to get?
Just made the switch to ZorinOS (aesthetics + pre installed FOSS). Couldn’t be happier. My laptop is shockingly silent and cool even when I’m running multiple apps.
It’s incredible how much processor windows telemetry uses.
Even when I put it to sleep. I feel like I own my laptop again after I kicked Windows out of it.
I wouldn’t be surprised if they get a class action suit over security/data violations.
I’m reading this on a Microsoft Surface that I flashed with Linux Mint. Quite satisfying!
Message to Microsoft:🖕
I literally only use Windows for video games these days and Steam OS is looking better and better for that.
I use Debian for video games. Haven’t had a problem yet.
Most distros will run games just about the same as any other. No point waiting for SteamOS like it’s the golden egg.
I use Mint btw.
Doing the same on Ubuntu myself after trying Bazzite for a couple weeks. Bazzite kept messing up SSSD and would prevent me from authenticating with my home domain.
Will definitely try SteamOS once it is fully released.
SteamOS will not be your best option for desktop. Stop waiting for it. It’s made for the Deck and console like experiences, not desktop. It’s immutable too, which is great for a console experience, but probably not ideal for a desktop user.
Just go download Linux now. There’s nothing special in SteamOS that you need. I use Garuda, which is Arch based (which SteamOS is also, if that matters), and has a version specifically designed for gaming. It comes with most of what you could need set up, and a tool to quickly install any packages you may want for additional things like controllers or whatever.
immutable too, which is great for a console experience, but probably not ideal for a desktop user.
What?
I know what it is, my question was more at the “not for desktop use”
I think being able to rollback is better for new users
Sure, that is an advantage. There’s a lot of advantages. I just don’t think it’s good for users willing to learn. It’s good to make sure the user can’t fuck up, but then it also limits what they can do. I think if you’ve made it here and can use a full OS currently, you should try a non-immutable distro. If it turns out you fuck it up then you can swap to something that’ll hold your hand.
Fair enough
Bazzite works wonders for gaming. Nvidia cards are supposedly the one’s you will have to tinker with a bit, but everything besides VR has worked for me without needing to do a thing. Only really needed to install ALVR to get that working which took about 20-30 minutes to get set up.
You can also undervolt, overclock and all that with LACT. I believe it’s installable through the software center too if I’m remembering correctly. It fully supports Nvidia cards now.
I really wish sim racing worked well on Linux. The other stuff I need windows for I can work around or compromise. But the sim rig is just too damn windows dependant
Yeah, I’m big on Visual Pinball VR and I don’t think anybody has that running on Linux.
Took this crap off my computer and installed Fedora as my daily. If I need to run Windows, I’ll run it in a VM.
Fedora’s like the Windows of Linux.
No it’s not
Yes huh.
What aspects then? You can’t just throw out a baseless statement without justification and think others will agree with you.
Why would you assume I expect others to agree with me?
because you gave no justification for calling fedora the windows of Linux. Simple as that.
Hey copilot - what was that website I found with the sweet ass interracial stepsibling fuckin? You know the one where that sis’s ass popped just the right way? Not the one with the first-cousins. I gotta draw the line somewhere. I mean, that was ALSO great porn but I have pre-postnut clarity here and that kind of shit just aint what I need right now.
Even if Copilot was suspended, the idea was put into the heads of managers and executives. My work laptop current has three applications constantly locking files as they track everything I do and every file that gets touched and upload it all to the servers. Git now takes a ridiculous amount of time to check in and push files since it creates tons of small changes to the cached files that a the tracking applications block further changes or uploads until they can record the information. It takes about 30 seconds to a minute to check in a single small file. Something that used to take a second or two at most. Worst part is if I’m in a WebEx meeting, the fighting over caches in it and git and any other processes,often causes deadlocks that crash the machine. I’m constantly apologizing for being late for meetings because the laptop crashed and had to reboot. It’s gotten to the point that they finally gave me a much faster laptop rather than just excluding cache and git folders and such from the tracking because the people who want literally everything tracked don’t know what cache or git is, much less how much useless data they’re gathering or how the AI that analyzes it all is going yo get distracted by the garbage and not find any useful data anyway. Microsoft needs to get in the game to push the others back out.
I ran into this as my IDE is also constantly touching temporary files to maintain its state. It wasn’t copilot though, it was one drive. So I moved my work files into a local-only location, and then periodically rsync to the synced folder, excluding .git and other folders that have no business on a synced folder.
Why would you even have git repositories in OneDrive in the first place? Or are those local-only repos without an actual server to push to?
Because the workflow for a lot of people is to have projects in folders which are synced to Onedrive. That allows for collaboration with colleagues that are not using git, as well as backup/archival of files and access from different computers or online sharing. My workflow of using rsync to periodically copy the files (–exclude .git) works, but isn’t ideal. If I forget or someone else edits something, I have to manually deal with conflicts. I guess the real answer is just “not everyone is a software dev.”
I’m certain this can be disabled in windows at any moment as without it loads and loads of criminal evidence would be available for discovery and litigation against the wealthiest people and businesses across the world.
A real fear is being a worker in a world with micromanagers inspecting your workweek, 3 second snapshots at a time.
Microsoft turns things back on all the time though. It doesn’t matter what you set if they can unset it whenever they want.
Windows as is, is a valid, fast and private OS. The lack is that it is by default a bundleware, full of telemetries, spyware, services which nobody needs, trials and other crap “to improve the user experience”. All this can be gutted by an advanced user. The alternastive for those which need use Windows, is to install one of the WindowsX series, an independent modification and optimization, without all these M$ crap.
Quick way of accomplishing the “de-bloating” of windows is by 1) managing your own DNS and blocking telemetry connections network wide (quite easy to do with PiHole + Docker Engine) or 2) installing Glasswire and blocking connections on the specific device however, I believe Glasswires Firewall is subscription based so this may be a turn-off for people.
Either work and are more efficient than digging around your Windows install and finding all the different variants of the same bloatware.
Simplewall works quite well too! And it’s free.
I use Portmaster, there go nothing in or out without my permissions.
Ah I figured Portmaster was only for Linux, I dabbled around their software and found it quite good!
I think the reason I stopped using it in lieu of OpenSnitch was because 1) most features were locked behind a subscription and 2) already had PiHole running so the firewall wasn’t something I really needed.
Regardless thanks for letting me know it works for Windows, I’ll started recommending it over Glasswire!
There are no need of subscriptions in Portmaster, it’s FOSS. Well, the subscription is only if you want to use additional also the inbuild SPN service (optional service), which need an paid subscription like any good VPN (server cost money). I Prefer to use Portmaster over Pi-Hole, because Portmaster permits per app settings, Pi-Hole don’tm apart is way easier to setup, with already a good default settings, its almost download it, run install and peace. Then maybe open it, browse your listed apps and block their traffic if needed with an click.
valid, fast and private OS wut?
Yes, as said, the problem isn’t the OS as is, it’s all the crap, spy- and bloatware which M$ put in it.
Disable Recall with these instructions:
https://oracle-base.com/blog/2024/11/10/windows-recall-how-to-disable-spy-mode/
This is what forced me onto Linux for the first time, and permanently.
It’s partly great, mostly fine, and 10% of the time god damn fucking annoying. Mostly having to learn the fucking game of thrones factions of installing things.
But I don’t feel like there’s a piece of shit company in my computer trying to completely ruin it, so it’s a win. The positives outweigh the negatives, even as someone who wasn’t really into the idea of switching.
But even if it was half as good, it would still be an improvement, given Microsoft destroying itself.
@jaggedrobotpubes @zdhzm2pgp have you considered Mint. It’s almost as user friendly as Windows.
The only thing I haven’t been able to work out is SMB sharing which I need for my server that currently runs Windows and for my Jellyfin server.
I don’t remember what I did to get smb sharing working in Linux mint, but I do remember asking chatgpt how to do it and it definitely works for me now. Anytime I get stuck I ask chatgpt or Gemini how to do what I’m trying to do and its made my switch to mint extremely successful.
Is this legal in EU? I mean not the tool itself but just enabling it by default.
From the comments it seems like you have to opt in to the screenshots. But I’m sure they do it at the bottom of a three thousand page EULA or something so most users will wind up opting in by default
Probably in the same dark pattern bullshit they do to get you to turn the rest of their crap on.
Yes, you can modify your property to your like, Windows needs your consents, not the other way arrount.
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