and why doesn’t everybody vote? I don’t understand why it isn’t mandatory i think everyone should have to, men, women, and children. If you can read the ballot, you should be able to vote. I know my nephew wouldn’t have voted for trump and he’s 10!

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    You want children to vote?? Children will vote for whomever their parents vote for.

    Jfc were beyond repair

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    Roughly, 40% of Americans simply didn’t vote. Of the remaining 60%, half (30%) voted for Harris.

    That makes - roughly- 70% who didn’t vote for trump.

    A word of warning, we don’t know who that 40% would have voted for had they been forced to. I assume it would follow the same percentages as those who do vote, but there’s no way to know.

    Edit: Also note, that’s of eligible voters. 32% of the US population is ineligible to vote (roughly 8% of the total population are adults that are ineligible.)

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      Of course, it’s also important to realize that 70% of Americans were fine with Trump being president. 70% of America didn’t vote for Harris when Trump was the likely outcome of the election.

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        Some people also voted ideologically, like wanting to show that Stein, etc. had a following and that people dislike the 2-party system. That doesn’t mean that they “were fine with Trump being president.”

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          So the electoral college complicates things somewhat - a voter for Stein in California probably thought their vote would have no impact anyways - but voters for Stein in more competitive states were absolutely fine with Trump being president.

          Due to the vote shenanigans in 2020 I think it was wise in this last election to vote for Harris because had their been an electoral college/popular vote split with Harris winning the college Trump would absolutely try and overturn the results again… but I know most Americans are less politically aware.

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    Why do people say more people didn’t vote for Trump than did?

    Because more people didn’t vote for Trump than did.

    Trump got more of the popular vote in the U.S. in 2024 than any other candidate did, but he still didn’t get 50% of the vote. He got like 49.80% of the popular vote. And that isn’t even considering those who didn’t vote.

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      • restrictive voting laws making it impossible (usually targeting minorities. I.e. voter id laws.)
      • lack of time. People work. Roughly 2/3’s can’t get time off, the others are sleeping or are stay at home parents (and kids at a polling place? Nightmare fuel.)
      • lack of available early or mail in voting
      • frequently fucked up poling locations, making it an all-day thing in some places (which works with lack of time,)
      • general voter apathy (“both sides!!!”)
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      Are employers mandated to give a half-day for voting? That’s been the case for me in Canada.

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        I believe you can’t be retaliated against for taking off time to vote but your employer isn’t required to compensate you for time spent voting.

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        The real question is why the hell Americans (including Canadian it seems) don’t vote on Sunday like the rest of the world ? So people do not work, problem solved

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        Depending on where you are… it can take an entire day in some places.

        Also, for the record we’ve had Nazis showing up armed for a few elections now… and bomb threats were a new novelty.

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    As George Carlin once said, imagine the average American, then realize half of them are stupider than that.

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        Dude what is your point here?

        My son is 12. Can read. You think he has the mental capacity to do his own research and vote on a fucking ballot over national issues that he doesn’t even realize are happening around him?

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          I don’t think most adults have that capacity, but doesn’t mean they shouldn’t be allowed to vote.

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        God no, most people probably shouldn’t, in fact. The average person is way to stupid and uninformed to lead their own life much less the lives of literally everyone else.