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i think in a logical society it would have been the other way around (second image would be the first)
Well, our society is everything else, than Logical
I’ve tried to imagine how I would gesture ‘my heart goes out to you’ vibes. In no world can I imagine a down-turned, flat palm, fingers straight and all together at about 45° (Nazi salute).
Like, if you were to give some one something (your metaphorical heart) you’d hand it over palm up. Or if you’re metaphorically distributing it like sewing seeds you would again, throw it out, palm up, hands slightly closed. Or if you’re throwing it like sand, you would have your fingers apart by the end of the throw.
In no world, does this make any sense other being a Nazi salute.
Or he’s the most awkward, weird dude in history. That is also, true, but given his other behaviour, I dunno how this could be read in any other way.
Racist “dog-wistling” is dead. This guy does two successive straight-up Nazi salutes after supporting right-wing politics in the USA and Germany and mainstream media still goes “hum, I’m not sure, maybe he’s sharing his heart”?
What’s next? “Oh no, it’s not a swastica flying over the capitol, it’s just 4 'F’s in a circle”.
The birdy has grown
Ok, so imagine that you’re a billionaire and a really smart dude (as claimed by so many people on the internet). And you get into government and appear on TV and want to look good. You might hire a publicist, a PR team, some speechwriters, hell how about a body language consultant. When you go on TV you’re going to project exactly the image you intend to. Anything less would be careless and stupid, right?
So yeah. This was a Nazi salute. And if you really want to argue that it wasn’t, that Musk doesn’t even know what a Nazi is, you gotta also accept that he’s grossly incompetent and should not be in government at all. Throw him out, we didn’t vote for him.
What a fucking clown show of a state lmao. An empire in such steep decline that even the oligarchs and the politicians are incompetent.
Smart? He only has enough money to buy smart
slavesemployees.
𝕯𝖎𝖊𝖘𝖊 𝕶𝖔𝖒𝖒𝖊𝖓𝖙𝖆𝖗𝖘𝖊𝖐𝖙𝖎𝖔𝖓 𝖎𝖘𝖙 𝖓𝖚𝖓 𝕰𝖎𝖌𝖊𝖓𝖙𝖚𝖒 𝖉𝖊𝖗 𝕭𝖚𝖓𝖉𝖊𝖘𝖗𝖊𝖕𝖚𝖇𝖑𝖎𝖐 𝕯𝖊𝖚𝖙𝖘𝖈𝖍𝖑𝖆𝖓𝖉
Diese Besitznotiz gilt nicht für Elon Musk. Den könnt ihr gerne behalten, wir brauchen keinen zweiten Höcke der zusätzlich noch viel zu viel Geld hat.
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At first I thought it was blown out of proportion, too. After watching the video, I can only say that if he did that in Germany, he would have been arrested on stage. Let’s see what topic-relatedly, profoundly knowledgeable Benito Mussolini, allegedly, had to say:
“Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power.”
Ah, ok, thanks Benito! Enjoy your fascism that you voted for, America. I hope those egg prices will go down (they won’t).
I hope those egg prices will go down (they won’t).
They might, since deregulation is another of Trump’s plans. Then the producers can save money by not bothering to keep dangerous substances out of the food, or the water, or the air… and pass those “savings” on to the consumers.
and pass those “savings” on to the consumers.
More likely that they pocket those savings for extra profit and the prices stay the same.
Hey, but they didn’t go up! 🥴
Don’t be so sure about the not going up part. Prices will always go up!
Deregulating the industry while we’re on the cusp of a bird flu epidemic and after pulling out of WHO. 💀
These fucking dorks obsess over the fall of the Roman empire but they’re so full of American chauvinism (they’ve grown around the mythology of a settler state after all) that they can’t go “ah, fuck, it was the rich people who killed it”, they blame the barbarians iNvAdInG.
Absolute brainrot.
Swear to god, if Covid-25 gets me I’m coming back to haunt motherfuckers
If you don’t need to look for Avian flu, or stop selling eggs from sick Chickens, then cost savings can be passed on to customers, and no one will notice increased healthcare costs/deaths. Cheap eggs y’all.
That only works for so long before shit like the avian flu kills all the flocks.
Then all the fast-food places can buy the dead chickens for cheap and again pass the savings on to the soon to very ill consumer. Glorious plan!
Maybe arrested and then let go without any consequences. These guys are too rich to have proper punishments.
“Managed democracy sounds good” - Elon Musk
That’s an on the money quote
If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck.
Steps like a goose.
I asked the Anti-Duckification League and they say he’s a swan. You’re misconstruing things and frankly we find it a bit weird that you’d read so far into such a banal hand gesture.
Now, if you’ll excuse me, we need to get back to our primary goal of making the use of the phrase “From the River, To The Sea” a capital crime.
No, it’s probably a nazi. I don’t care how it looks or where it swims or even if it quacks.
If they aren’t in 1940’s Germany supporting Hitler, they aren’t Nazis.
You can never use history as an example, don’t these people know that?
And comparisons are illegal.
:p
“Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”
― Jean-Paul Sartre
You could absolutely just replace anti-semites here with fascists, to encompass all the other minorities they intend to oppress
Thanks for this quote.
CNN is already sane-washing this, referring to Musk’s “odd gesture.”
https://www.bbc.com/news/videos/cpdxzjw9p47o
Elon Musk’s appearance at a Trump rally this afternoon is garnering significant attention online over a one-armed gesture.
He made the gesture while thanking supporters for contributing to Trump’s victory. Musk thanked the crowd for “making it happen”, before placing his right hand over his heart and then thrusting the same arm out into air straight ahead of him.
“My heart goes out to you. It is thanks to you that the future of civilisation is assured,” he said.
Several users on X, the social medial platform he owns, have likened the gesture to a Nazi salute.
Musk has since responded, posting on his social media site X: “Frankly, they need better dirty tricks. The ‘everyone is Hitler’ attack is sooo tired.”
I wish western journalists would have opted to become compost instead. Compost is useful.
Securing the future and a nazi salute, but we’re not supposed to believe our lying eyes.
The ADL said it wasn’t a Nazi salute, for what it’s worth.
Fuck the ADL: they run cover for genocidal Zionist settler colonialism.
The ADL’s opinion is worth nothing, as a rule.
That’s unfair.
It’s worth so much less than that.
they have lost all credibility.
Which discredits then entirely
And AOC called them out for downplaying it as well.
ADL = Anti Democracy League in this case, maybe in others, but definitely in this one.
Also known as the Apartheid Defense League
It was bizarre reading that
Like watching that poor old man who is a literal holocaust survivor get arrested by UK police for protesting and speaking out against genocide.
I agree.
The real excuse from Elons fans is “It’s just a joke.” Or “He’s trolling libs.”
Which is almost as bad, even if true.
It reminds me of school bullies that would make cutting, abusive “jokes” and follow it up with “Just kidding, bruh” if it doesn’t land right. And these are some of the worst human beings I have ever personally encountered.
How can people worship something like that at such scale? Like, I wouldn’t even wish that on the most raging Nazi, it’s worse than breaking their jaw.
Another one I saw was “But Kamala Harris did it as well” which is just a frame and had to yet see an link to the video in question unlike when Elon Musk did it
Yeah that’s bad, there are fields where you shouldn’t joke and politics is one of them.
1932 was a pivotal year in the Nazis’ ascent. It’s a terrifying parallel for today
Leading Civil Rights Lawyer Shows 20 Ways Trump Is Copying Hitler’s Early Rhetoric and Policies
Here’s the list from that second article. Article goes into detail for each.
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Neither was elected by a majority. (not relevant now this was 2019)
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Both found direct communication channels to their base.
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Both blame others and divide on racial lines.
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Both relentlessly demonize opponents.
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They unceasingly attack objective truth.
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They relentlessly attack mainstream media.
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Their attacks on truth include science.
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Their lies blur reality–and supporters spread them.
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Both orchestrated mass rallies to show status.
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They embrace extreme nationalism.
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Both made closing borders a centerpiece.
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They embraced mass detention and deportations.
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Both used borders to protect selected industries.
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They cemented their rule by enriching elites.
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Both rejected international norms.
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They attack domestic democratic processes.
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Both attack the judiciary and rule of law.
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Both glorify the military and demand loyalty oaths.
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They proclaim unchecked power.
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Both relegate women to subordinate roles.
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We’re cooked guys.
Buy a gun.
And join the SRA while you’re at it
MAGAts ain’t cryin tho
He is crying from happiness, until, as always, affects their family members.
Liberals deeply, passionately, fervently need to believe in some kind of cosmic justice for conservatives. But I’m surrounded by them deep down in the bleeding red state of Texas, and I’m sorry to report they’re thriving and multiplying.
Yeah, sure, they’ll bitch and cry like stuck pigs at the mildest inconvenience. But plenty of them still have fat bank accounts and big price-inflated houses they took the mortgage out on 20 years ago when land was cheap and college degrees with minimal debt and luxurious country club style mega-churches subsidized with public dollars and giant families with chubby little grandkids outfitted in all the latest MAGA apparel.
Like, the idea that you’ve got these armies of Crying MAGA voters who have sucked shit due to Republican policy is delusional. The army of billionaires showing up to the Trump Inauguration so they can kiss the ring and collect another few trillion in next year’s federal spending should let you know exactly how delusional.
Conservatives aren’t suffering and liberals would do well to stop pretending a friendly government is incapable of jerking its favored constituents off. Just because the last four liberal Presidents fumbled the bag for their base voters doesn’t mean Republicans can’t or won’t happily deliver.
Conservatives aren’t suffering
They are, they just aren’t aware they are, so in a way they’re not.
Travel around the U.S. A lot of conservative America looks like a 3rd world country. They suffer. They just aren’t aware, because they don’t travel. They don’t expand their perspective through knowledge. Rural conservatives will arguably suffer more than any other group under conservative leadership. But ignorance is bliss.
A lot of conservative America looks like a 3rd world country.
That’s not “conservative America”. That’s just “America”.
And what it looks like is an increasingly stratified society, in which obsence wealth abuts horrifying poverty.
Rural conservatives will arguably suffer more than any other group under conservative leadership.
Rural conservatives don’t exist in any meaningful number. What you have are rent seeking land barons and suburbanites operating defacto plantations with quasi-legal disenfranchised laborers.
The plantation owners aren’t going to suffer. It’s the migrant workers and day laborers who will eat shit. None of them are allowed to vote in any real sense.
The normalization and defenses of it, the crying maga soyjack, has been coming from the the major media networks from what I have seen.
MAGA is stroking it.
Quit linking Twitter and X. Almost any other site will do.
I vote for a rebrand of MAGA: Make America Go Aryan.
Do you mean that Iran (translates to the land of the Aryans) should govern the USA? Or do you hint towards the Nazi race theories? But I thinkt the only Trump child that could be considered “Nazi approved Aryan” is Tiffany Trump, the others are all half slavic and thus considered sub-humans.
