Everyone I have something very important to say about The Agora.

The Problem

Let me be super clear here to something people don’t seem to understand about lemmy and the fediverse. Votes mean absolutely nothing. No less than nothing.

In the fediverse, anyone can open a instance, create as many users as they want and one person can easily vote 10,000 times. I’m serious. This is not hard to do.

Voting at best is a guide to what is entertaining.

As soon as you allow a incentive the vast majority of votes will be fake. They might already be mostly fake.

If you try to make any decision using votes as a guide someone WILL manipulate votes to control YOU.

one solution (think of others too!)

A counsel of trusted users.

The admin, top mods may set up a group to decide on who to ban and what instances to defederate from. You will not get it right 100% of the time but you also won’t be controlled by one guy in his basement, running 4 instances and 1,000 alts.

Now i’m gonna go back to shit posting.

  • Black Conservative@sh.itjust.worksOP
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    1 year ago

    We are following a democratic process here. We aren’t delegating the decision making to an oligarchy, even if it would simplify things.

    Yes you are because the people swaying the vote will be users with dozens of accounts aka the Oligarchs.

    Your example of a “democratic process” is one user having 50 votes and another user having 1. If one user is 50 times more powerful than the other that isn’t democracy is it? That is apartheid.

    To prove it I would literally have to do it myself.

    • imaqtpie@sh.itjust.worksM
      0·
      1 year ago

      What is your goal on this server?

      If your intentions are pure, there is no reason for you to do something like that. If you witness people manipulating votes, by all means, come forward. But what is the point of posing this hypothetical, and suggesting that you would manipulate the vote?

    • LizardKing@sh.itjust.works
      0·
      1 year ago

      to prove it I would literally have to do it myself

      So no one else is doing this? If it’s not a thing that’s happening, why are you here trying to undermine the voting process?

      You’re the only one here threatening to abuse the voting system.

            • Hagarashi8@sh.itjust.works
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              1 year ago

              I understand it can be done, what i’m saying is that it’s hard to be done without evidence. I don’t want you to shot a man to see that he can be shot, i’m just saying that it’s hard to find place where you can shot them without witnesses.

              • Black Conservative@sh.itjust.worksOP
                01·
                1 year ago

                How is it hard? Just use a VPN, make 20 accounts. Post one thing from each per day for 5 days then when the next vote happens vote 20 times.