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This pic of a document posted to 4chan last year in-between Grusch’s initial interview with Coulthart and the hearings popped up in a Discord I’m in and has been making the rounds apparently. I do think it’s pertinent as the idea that China has beat us in reverse-engineering UAP-tech has been going around a lot lately.
Here’s the post and its header:
China has successfully reverse engineered UAP technologyChina has successfully reverse engineered UAP technology
China has reverse engineered UAPs and the spooks in the special access programs are starting to shit their pants. Chatter going on behind the scenes right now is like nothing I’ve heard. Suspect more info will start leaking out soon. Id suggest digging into some of these companies.
Well aware that sourceless posts to 4chan can very likely be nothing, but figured it could be worth digging into, considering the “underwater base” post from last year that is making the rounds again thanks to Danny Sheehan’s recent claims and coordinates about this base near Guadalupe Island off the coast of Baja California and its relationship to the Tic-Tac incident, an area that was already a focus during Lue Elizondo and Chris Mellon’s ‘Unidentified’ History Channel show as well as the documentary A Tear in the Sky. And as stated in that 4chan post from last year, “I’m not here to convince anyone. You’ll notice yourself coming back to these things I’ve said over time on your own as understanding increases.”
Here’s an IMGUR link for the full post. If you know of something more user friendly, I’ll update.
I also watched a really good new Area52 podcast from a few days ago that went over the 4chan post and a number of government agency patches like NRO with pretty odd esoteric references:
And Clint on his excellent Night Shift podcast just interviewed Chris Ramsay of Area52 alongside Luigi Vendittelli of Project Gravitaur, which is documenting the Bob Lazar story and looking to present it in multiple mediums.
Here’s the initial Night Shift video on Project Gravitaur from a month ago:
On to this other 4chan post.
Here’s the text of the document:
Regarding the recent tests and implementation of NHI exotic materials in unmanned aerospace vehicles. Confirmation comes from a ------ access source within Kangde New Composite Material Group Co. Ltd. who is alleged to have provided support for at least one air-frame test domestically, and -------- of Sichuan Zero Gravity Technology Co. Ltd who has acted as a liasion between -------- and ------- and has direct knowledge of the operations in North American airspace and has direct knowledge of the operations in North American airspace. Sichuan Zero Gravity Technology Co. Ltd receives funding from the China Weapons Industry and since at least 2014, has been the primary umbrella under which the PLA conducts research into NHI propulsion systems. ------- has provided detailed technical information, photographs of three 3 operational unmanned vehicles during his interviews with Zodiac on April 14th, 2023 which are currently undergoing analysis by ---- at Det 1, at AFEREG. I have requested that copies be turned over to the committee.
Sincerely,
Las Vegas Operations
Zodiac Exotic Technology Evaluation Group
(702) 382-9051 ------
Zodiac was recently talked in that original 4chan post.
It’s also been talked about as the successor to MJ-12 that lead to Immaculate Constellation.
I posted this clip five months ago from Ross Coulthart about MJ-12 and Zodiac.
On March 16th, 2023, as David Grusch was coming forward, Ross Coulthart went on That UFO Podcast and talked about Group K as well as the Senior Review Group.
Some interesting comments here about that mention:
Here’s a thread from TinyKlaus about Group K:
Here’s a very compelling comment made on the Dreamland Resort forum just prior to the 2008 election:
DET 1 AFEREG?
Message posted by Metro on October 24, 2008 at 14:43:43 PST:
In researching about Area 51, TTR, JANET flights, etc., I keep coming across the name “DET 1 AFEREG” in relation to Area 51 activities.
For example, some of the “Cammo Dudes” were deputized by a woman named “Nancy A. Martin” who uses a PO Box in Mercury, NV that is listed as belonging to “DET 1 AFEREG.”
Additionally, some plane trackers have noticed that several JANET planes were listed in official documents as being owned by “DET 1 AFEREG.”
Some have suggested that “DET 1 AFEREG” was an OLD name for what is now called “DET 3 AFFTC” which we know is the “official” name for Area 51 and which stands for “Detachment 3, Air Force Flight Test Center.” But I disagree. I think “DET 1 AFEREG” is still in active use and refers to a detachment linked to Area 51, TTR, etc. besides DET 3 AFFTC.
Google the term “AFEREG” and you’ll see a number of links suggesting the organization still exists and has recently ordered equipment, made hazardous materials usage reports, etc. There was even one job listing I found for a guy who said he was a “flight test engineer.”
But what does “DET 1 AFEREG” stand for? This I haven’t been able to figure out, although some reasonable guesses can be made:
Obviously “DET 1” is “Detachment 1,” and “AF” is “Air Force.” It would be reasonable to think the “G” stands for “Group.”
So we have “Detachment 1, Air Force __ __ __ Group.”
Based on the guy saying he was a “flight test engineer” at the facility, and based on what we know about Area 51, TTR, etc., I’m guessing that AFEREG stands for some variation of:
“Detachment 1, Air Force Engineering Research and Evaluation Group.”
I’ve tried Googling to see if such a group exists, and haven’t found anything though.
What are your thoughts? What does AFEREG stand for?
There’s probably more to dig through in the replies.
Zodiac has been around for a while. It appears that it was changed again under Clinton and specifically while John Podesta was looking into the crash-retrieval reverse-engineering program. The name was interestingly found in the records of NARA at the same time that the Twining Memo was filed post-Roswell and the DoD, NSA, CIA, and others were created.
It’s believed that MJ-12 went defunct in 1969 following the death of Allen Dulles, and that the tech going to the private sector via SAIC, which was founded that year.
Lots to dig into here:
NSF - BLUE BOOK / VANNEVAR NSF RETIREMENT YEAR
According to their annual reports, the Board and first report was transmitted to the president in 1951, with the second report (much more extensive and filled out with panels, projects, etc.) occurring in 1952. The same year as Blue Book. Blue book ran to 1969 and based on the connections I have determined to be pertinent in my own personal research between SAIC and elements of the program,
I believe 1969 represents a shift in “how” the development of some components of a suspected NHI/UFO portfolio was being facilitated. As private interest began to leverage ERISA and other advantageous legislation/accounting principles to control the development of Aerospace and Defense, and as a result, peripheral sectors/industries.
They say that the name “Project Blue Book” is inspired by the utilization of “blue” books for authorities reporting.
I believe “Blue Book” is actually referring to the accounting principles and standards settled by the Military Departments, AEC, and more, when determining indirect costs, and those “indirect costs” were used to calculate the funding of research, acquisitions, and appropriations for the R&D of a suspected UFO/NHI tech portfolio.
I believe if you analyze these accounting principles and the enabling legislation that authorized them you will find links to individuals and organizations that have benefitte…
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