• Valmond@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    I thought it was russia who paid that swedish dude to burn korans so maybe both?

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    Lol sweden being called islamophobic when it has the highest muslim acceptence in the whole of the eu is pretty funny. Im not saying everyone is nice here but its better that 60-70% of people are normal than how it is in other european countries where only ~20% of people accept muslim people normally. Here muslim people get looks and sometimes are called out while in some countries they get shouted at and beaten up. Every country should strive to be more accepting. The problem they have with sweden is that people here have more of choice over whether they are muslim or not. I personally know people who chose not be religious while their parents are.

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    islamophobia? , quran says non-muslims are sub humans that deserve to be killed and raped, it also calls for murder for apostates, is it a phobia if i refuse to show sympathy to people who believe in this book?

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      And the Bible says if a family member even thinks about worshipping another god, the family needs to kill the nonbeliever so it doesn’t spread…

      In shocking news:

      Religious documents from thousands of years ago are full of shitty advice.

      The problem isn’t the religion, it’s always the right-wing extremists who insist everyone follows their interpretation of their own rules.

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        difference is there are no christian states but there are 50 islamic states

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          Mostly because foreign governments overthrew existing democracies and created religious extremists dictatorships in pursuit of cheap oil…

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      Ah thanks for demonstrating islamophobia. The bible has the same shit but most christians dont do the insane shit, same with european muslims.

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      2 months ago

      sub humans that deserve to be killed and raped

      It does… uh… not? The verses you’re referring to clearly mean when a Muslim army fights a non-Muslim army.

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        Unless I misunderstand what you just said, it’s still advocating rape.

        Given most people that are religious tend to ignore the moronic parts of their text.

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          I mean it’s not advocating rape, but yeah doesn’t take issue with the topic I’ll admit that. Still not nearly as violent as indiscriminately violent as you were making it seem.

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            I’m sorry how is it not advocating it?

            In one line it’s says deserves to be raped,then you say it only refers to muslim vs non Muslim army.

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                Huh??? I have the verse open in front of me and I legitimately do not know what the fuck you’re talking about. Anyway I’ll paste Sahih International’s translation of the verse.

                O Prophet, tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to bring down over themselves [part] of their outer garments. That is more suitable that they will be known and not be abused. And ever is Allah Forgiving and Merciful.

                So with that in mind, let me say:

                that guy is doing taqiyaah,

                That is not what taqiyah is. Taqiyah is hiding that you’re a Muslim when you to avoid persecution. You are not, in fact, allowed to lie to spread Islam I have no idea why that’s such a common myth among atheists. Anyway the taqiyah you’re thinking of is straight up not a thing, at least in mainstream Sunni Islam.

                even if you are not in an army (a civillian) quran allows you to rape disbelivers see 33:59.

                We are not, in fact, allowed to rape disbelievers as a rule. You can take slaves from non-Muslim conquered territories, which is the closest you can get, but nothing allows a Muslim to just rape a random non-Muslim. That’s, in more than one way, a major sin that’s liable to land you in hell on its own.

                it says molestation of women who do not wear hijab is allowed

                Can you please not make shit up? Like seriously, have the least modicum of knowledge about the topic you’re talking about before saying things like this. I have no idea what to say except that this is pure nonsense.