We’ve been anticipating it for years,1 and it’s finally happening. Google is finally killing uBlock Origin – with a note on their web store stating that the …
I love how they gave a TL;DR right at the beginning of the article, it made me stay and read the rest out of respect for the author.
Google lives of the ads (among the things), of course a browser they develop is going to screw the add-ons that block ads. Solution: avoid google if you want an ad-free internet.
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What pisses me off is seeing more and more “You need to upgrade your browser for this site!” when using Firefox.
Having to use a spoof header gets frustrating frequently too.
In my head I respond “you need to upgrade your website to handle my rad browser, fellas”
I haven’t seen this warning in 6 years
you guys notice this strategy lately of announcing something bad, and dragging it on to soften the outrage?
tech companies seem to be doing it a lot. microsoft with windows recall too.
This has been done for decades. It is PR 101, and it is done to indoctrinate and subsequently normalize XYZ onto the average consumer/citizen.
In Marketing, you get taught that the average person has a memory of 3 to 6 months for issues like this, at the most. So, if you can afford to stretch something for longer, than acceptance on average, will always go up. Attention span are short. In other cases, it alleviates any cases of legal liability. Since no one can say they were not warned.
thanks for the answer. it really helps to understand whats happening when I notice this stuff. id like to be better at it, where can i start in an approachable way?
also how do we even defend from it?
It has always been a common strategy. Aim for the extremes, and then move to your actual goal to seem reasonable and make the opposition think they won.
uBlock may have enough support to start their own maintained fork, and be the upstream for all the other quiet browsers. That dude is like THE ONE GUY that makes chromium sane, and doesn’t even take donations?!
That’s madness, I was literally about to donate to him today but I check the site you’re absolutely correct. No donations :(
My dad used to watch TV and I always wondered why given how shit it was, nothing but ads. He told me about how great it used to be when he was a kid. I can’t help think the same thing is happening now with the internet. It’s dying. It’s already shit compared to 10 years ago and I only see it getting worse. Our generations will cling to it remembering what it used to be though, just like he did.
The difference between linear tv (that your dad watched) and the internet is that there is no alternative to the latter.
We will have services to scrape the internet to cleanup the garbage.
Lemmy’s kinda helped me see a different perspective. It’s just old man talk. Like, the internet is still there. Everything that once was, still is. Just a lot more shit the rest of everyone is usually using. Stop trying to keep up with everyone using all these popular sites for everyday life like they did with TV. Find obscure websites and dedicated forums for your topic. Don’t rely on Googletm to find the internet for you. Before, you actually had to find a site (magazines, social/network circles) then hope that site had a search function if you’re looking for something particular (this is the old internet everyone craves lol, it wasn’t perfect by any means/rose tinted glasses).
You can use the internet just like you did back in the day and have the same experience. It’s just that the majority of the world uses the connection for a “TV”-like feed with main popular sites and apps. There’s still more people using and improving the “old internet” compared to the 90’s, so it’s only a net positive in my book.
In an ideal world the headline would be “Google kills Chrome by preventing users from blocking ads”.
History repeats itself.
Some Old Thing (software/website/service/whatever) becomes bad, and people get really upset. Initially, many say that SOT is going to die. Techies switch from SOT to New Great Thing. For a while, techies at NGT celebrate and pat each other on the back for making this brilliant move.
Meanwhile, normies at SOT continue to use it. They hate it at first or even complain about it, but eventually they get used to how bad SOT is. Every now and then, they hear about NGT, but they just can’t switch because reasons.
After a few years it’s clear that, SOT hasn’t died yet, but also continues to have quite a few users too. Some people end up using both, while a small group of people vow to never touch SOT ever again. SOT and NGT both continue to exist, because apparently there are enough users for both.
I’ve seen these things happen so many times, that it’s about time to point out that there’s a pattern. Just look back at any tech controversy over the past 30 years and you can see it usually follows this pattern pretty well.
And then what? The google funded firefox?
Yes. The Google-funded Firefox that won’t take away your ability to block ads. Any other questions?
Why are they working with google to screw up our privacy?
How are they doing that? They’re simply making money by putting Google search as the default. Changing it literally takes a few seconds.
They developed the “privacy sandbox” together. And in terms of cashflow, they depend on that google money. They’re in trouble without it
They developed the “privacy sandbox” together.
Yeah that’s not true.
Chrome came up with that feature a while back. Now firefox is adding the same. And then later I learned it was a cooperative effort, just not under the same name
And in terms of cashflow, they depend on that google money. They’re in trouble without it
That’s irrelevant. The only thing important is what they have to do for that money, which is setting Google as the default search engine. This only “hurts” you if you don’t take 15 seconds to change the default.
Well, yes, technically. But then again, if google decides to stop doing that firefox can’t pay for it’s staff or infrastructure. Really, they have an incentive to listen
I finally switched to Firefox when I couldn’t remove the ads on my casual browsing. Now I’m told Firefox isn’t cash money either? Wtf is going on here.
forks of firefox still keeping things going such as mullvad browser, waterfox, librewolf
WaterFox!
If the other main Chromium based browsers can figure out (or keep in the instance of having their own extension stores) how to support for V2 extensions. Then it would be easier to recommend replacing Chrome to normies and other folks with those options. As one of the main issues comes down to lots of sites (especially stuff like school or work) doing the modern version of IE and are coded to really only work with Chrome.
I was advising customers to just use Edge if they needed Chrome for those reasons. And a lot of them did since it meant not installing extra programs. Though it is currently hard to recommend Edge due to MS seeming to find more and more “features” to add that make shit really annoying and scummy. It is like they are trying so hard to make it not worth using at all. So Brave and Vivaldi are the new options I tell people about.
Brave’s main downside (IMO) is the crypto stuff maybe confusing/pointless for folks. Vivaldi’s main downside (and upside for users that love it) is how overwhelming levels of customization settings. But they both don’t have their own extension stores. Opera could also work since they have their own extension store. I hate how it and the GX version love to automatically set themselves to launch on Windows startup (fuck all of them that try to do this as well).
You should check the provenience of your alternatives. Except maybe Vivaldi these aren’t really better.
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Brave is the offspring of “libertarian” (sociopathic authoritarian billionaire supporting JD Vance) Peter Thiel.
https://marketrealist.com/p/who-owns-brave-browser/
Thiel, among other things, founded palantir, facial recognition software used by police worldwide.
https://www.palantir.com/platforms/
He hates the western world. Hates democracy.
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/11/donald-trump-steve-bannon-peter-thiel-214490/
Openly states his plans to destroy the economy and implement a crypto financial system.
https://www.axios.com/2023/03/14/founders-fund-run-silicon-valley-bank
And, this is true, he’s the current president of the bilderberg group.
https://www.bilderbergmeetings.org/meetings/meeting-2024/participants-2024
He is not your friend.
He should never be trusted.
Brave is not the private browser you think it is.
By supporting brave you are supporting an authoritarian technocratic state.
I don’t love Peter Theil by any means, and his association with any project is, to my mind, enough to completely discredit it.
But I get a little worried when it starts turning into references to the bilderberg group, and whatever that link is to NCIO.ca is just completely nuts, low evidence jumping to conclusions.
He certainly has crazy ideas that I want no part of, but I think it crosses the line into conspiratorial to suggest he was instructed by Germany to act as a foreign agent to sabotage the global economy.
Nico was a mistake, I meant to link another site. Granted. You can look for yourself that it was thiel who called for the run on the bank. https://www.axios.com/2023/03/14/founders-fund-run-silicon-valley-bank
But bilderberg group is real. Very real. (They had a meeting here, once https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/kanata-hotel-hosts-high-level-power-group-1.601298 )
And thiel is president.
Also, if you can find his manifesto (I’m having a hard time locating it ) he openly states everything i said.
Also :
https://time.com/6092844/peter-thiel-power-biography-the-contrarian/
Thiel taught this class at Stanford and then turned it into a book called Zero to One. He talks about how companies are better run than governments because they have a single decision maker—a dictator, basically. He is hostile to the idea of democracy. That’s pretty scary when you consider the role the companies that he’s been involved in play. Facebook, I’d say is the most influential media entity in the history of humanity, but he also has a major stake in several defense contractors, including SpaceX
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Which lines of its libre software source code are malicous?
Which line of chrome is malicious?
Jfc.
Here’s a cherry, now you don’t have to pick any.
Google Chrome is not libre software.
Why are you making it about that question in particular? There’s a lot of topics that have been raised here, notably Google’s Chromium project, the way it’s killing ad blockers, the way that other browsers also use chromium, people associated with those browsers.
In this range of subjects I’m not sure what the significance is of elevating this libre software question above everything else.
Which is chromium. The article is specifically talking about chromium based browsers and how you’ll lose access too.
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Brave also uses chromium.
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Before Brave better use https://github.com/ungoogled-software/ungoogled-chromium
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If you read others comments, they explain why Brave is not a privacy Browser. You just need to use the good and open source addons for the chromium based alternatives that provide exactly the same or even better than Brave. Brave lies pretty much.
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I’m not going to do the research for you, I already read enough to know what Brave is, and I assume that’s why you got that many downvotes on your main post here. If you want me to leave you in peace, don’t reply.
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But you said
Can you provide evidence which back your claim’s?
And I’m not going to search for all those articles that were talking about bad practices of Brave Browser.
I rather think it’s bc most people didn’t do proper research, which is sadly not unusual.
If they don’t do proper research, they wouldn’t mind your comment.
But I found this article https://popzazzle.blogspot.com/2021/07/why-i-uninstalled-brave-browser.html where says:
[…] Since I believed I’d disabled all possible sources of activity bar the actual loading of DuckDuckGo (html-only version - which is a tiny load), I thought I’d have a look round for some insight. I’d disabled the telemetry, the updater, the spell-checker, the “security protection”… And yet there was still this big spike of traffic on the computer’s main network meter.
In truth I was probably going to uninstall anyway, but the unprompted activity was a final indication that Brave does not understand the meaning of privacy, or consent. […]
The part of “there was still this big spike of traffic on the computer’s main network meter” claims that Brave Browser is not that private. And you can get the same level of blocking with better alternatives than claiming Brave to be a private solution.
Brave is a series scam company
