• Rookwood@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    I mean it’s classic Orwellianism to make up wild claims so that they seem normal when you do it. It’s also called hypernormalization. Say crazy outlandish thing that doesn’t exist. Then when it happens no one is surprised. The Big Lie. Etc.

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      I still remember conspiracy theory that we are ruled by pedophiles…

      In early 2000s…

      In 2020s this is a well know, properly documented fact.

      Casting couch jokes… Were not jokes either…

      Mass government surveillance without warrants… Also a know fact … Now

      All of these were “conspiracies”

      Lab leak theory was suppressed aggressively, now it is considered viable but we just don’t know

      Regime propganda appratus can’t even keep its narrative straight anymore but sadest part is that with polarization, they don’t have to. Normies will larp their team no matter what, like docile dogs

      It is disgusting seeing what should adult people behave in such a way. Caring more about politics than people around them

      So we really got the rulers we deserve as a body of people.

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          First time hearing of this. But how is this never really brought publicly. Same reason diddy only getting flushed now?

          Regime don’t want to open another can of worms?

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          Also on the Californian side you had the sugar shack where all classic rock superstars went to do the exact same thing.

          We often forget that the hippie scene was predominantly white, male, and came from privileged backgrounds. That’s the only demographic that was liberated by the freedom movement. Same with the NY arty scene.

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          I think you’re talking about the film “Glory Daze: The Life and Times of Michael Alig” and the associated Club Kids scene. Folks may also recall the film “Party Monster” about the same guy.

          I’m somewhat familiar with the Club Kid scene and while they were often young and often used drugs, I’m not convinced of the sex trafficking scheme that your post seems to imply. Do you have any references, if that is your claim?

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        What always gets me in a conspiracy thinking spiral is remembering that the people (that were always portrayed as total nutters) talking about the us gov investigating mind control and drugging people were right (mk ultra, etc).

        I maintain that “conspiracy theory” should not be a thought stopper. One should not disregard something just because it seems like a classic “conspiracy theory”. Most people I discuss stuff like that with just stop thinking after forming the thought “conspiracy theory”.

        On the other side we see what happens if people “do their own research”…

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      Not sure if you got hypernormalisation right.
      It’s when state, population and even opposition play along by their known roles in a common, simplified fake-reality, ignoring a looming collapse, pretending everything is fine because noone can imagine a life outside the predominant system.
      Haha, how crazy would that be, right?