The divide in these comments perfectly encapsulates why nothing ever gets done when it comes to privacy
This thread is the worst case of astroturfing I’ve seen on this site so far, holy shit.
I dont understand the downvotes on some of these anti-signal arguments. There are a number of very valid arguments against Signal if privacy is your chief concern: they have centralised servers, they’ve been extremely lax with adding their production updates to their publicly available source code on github, they receive funding from RFA.
Yup, would probably get more people to join by just using Discord at this point.
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You won’t see previous messages, but that doesn’t mean the group is dead lol
Don’t want Signal with randoz. Try SimpleX, easy mutli-accounts.
Why not a matrix server?
Or Simplex Chat
Would be the most appropriate in this case as people don’t need to hide when talking in public groups
Seen a lot of different opinion in this, but personnaly I would recommended this.
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SimpleX, for the most privacy (but not really appropriate here) Wouldn’t use any of threema wire and else, as it’s not the best.
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A good option in the case of this project is a matrix server, if the group is public it’s the best thing. Try to host it somewhere else than matrix.org. Will have no real hiding but surely anonymously if done correctly
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SimpleX maybe 😁
Yeah not doing Signal with randos.
Not usable until they support unifiedpush. I won’t burn my battery with simplex.
Actually it’s not burning my battery so much, but I can understand
Why not something xmpp based? Or matrix
Make a Threema group then I’ll join lol
Isn’t this a paid app?
if it’s free, you’re the product.
signal seems really good right now, with open source clients, but they already show that they’d like to keep the ecosystem locked down by not allowing 3rd party clients. at some point they will need a way to pay for their datacenters, and even if they claim the foundation or whatever is doing well, i can see the pestering for donations getting much worse in the future.
that said, threema is far from optimal too, im still waiting for matrix servers to become solid options. last time i wanted to set up synapse, the only captcha they supported was fucking Google captcha :|
it’s generally true, but Signal is asking for and depends on donations because they have no other revenue source (unlike google which does not ask for donations because indeed they monatize you, the “product”).
Your arguments don’t really make sense in the context of you asking for Threema instead, even if you acknowledge that it isn’t optimal.
[Signal] already showed that they’d like to keep the ecosystem locked down by not allowing 3rd party clients
Neither does Threema, it is a closed eco system? And in fact there is Molly, a hardened Signal fork for Android
At some point they will need a way to pay for their datacenters, […] i can see the pestering for donations getting much worse in the future.
Threema is a paid app though. So you consider an app asking for donations worse than a paid one? I agree though that their financials aren’t the best, since they seem to be living off a loan, but thats even more an argument to donate.
Have fun paying to be the product, LMAO
