• grandma@sh.itjust.works
    311·
    1 month ago

    The divide in these comments perfectly encapsulates why nothing ever gets done when it comes to privacy

      • gwilikers@lemmy.ml
        1·
        29 days ago

        I dont understand the downvotes on some of these anti-signal arguments. There are a number of very valid arguments against Signal if privacy is your chief concern: they have centralised servers, they’ve been extremely lax with adding their production updates to their publicly available source code on github, they receive funding from RFA.

  • foremanguy@lemmy.ml
    7·
    1 month ago

    Seen a lot of different opinion in this, but personnaly I would recommended this.

    • SimpleX, for the most privacy (but not really appropriate here) Wouldn’t use any of threema wire and else, as it’s not the best.

    • A good option in the case of this project is a matrix server, if the group is public it’s the best thing. Try to host it somewhere else than matrix.org. Will have no real hiding but surely anonymously if done correctly

      • qpsLCV5@lemmy.ml
        1031·
        1 month ago

        if it’s free, you’re the product.

        signal seems really good right now, with open source clients, but they already show that they’d like to keep the ecosystem locked down by not allowing 3rd party clients. at some point they will need a way to pay for their datacenters, and even if they claim the foundation or whatever is doing well, i can see the pestering for donations getting much worse in the future.

        that said, threema is far from optimal too, im still waiting for matrix servers to become solid options. last time i wanted to set up synapse, the only captcha they supported was fucking Google captcha :|

        • The Hobbyist@lemmy.zip
          25·
          1 month ago

          it’s generally true, but Signal is asking for and depends on donations because they have no other revenue source (unlike google which does not ask for donations because indeed they monatize you, the “product”).

        • unskilled5117@feddit.orgEnglish
          18·
          1 month ago

          Your arguments don’t really make sense in the context of you asking for Threema instead, even if you acknowledge that it isn’t optimal.

          [Signal] already showed that they’d like to keep the ecosystem locked down by not allowing 3rd party clients

          Neither does Threema, it is a closed eco system? And in fact there is Molly, a hardened Signal fork for Android

          At some point they will need a way to pay for their datacenters, […] i can see the pestering for donations getting much worse in the future.

          Threema is a paid app though. So you consider an app asking for donations worse than a paid one? I agree though that their financials aren’t the best, since they seem to be living off a loan, but thats even more an argument to donate.