cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/19896850

The identified people include 169 babies born after the Hamas attacks of 7 October that began the war, and a man born in 1922 who had survived more than a century of war and upheaval. More than 100 pages are filled with the names of victims under 10 years old, and the first adult names do not appear until page 215.

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    It sucks that this is how humanity has to learn these lessons. “Sure, we’ve done a holocaust before…but have we done a holocaust during the age of the internet with a bunch of propaganda saying it’s not happening?”

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      What you would call “a bunch of propaganda” here: How is any of this even remotely similar to the Holocaust?

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        Either you are an example of what I would call the propaganda, or you’re in the bubble.

        • Literally, read the article. There’s no world where “11,355 children, 2,955 people aged 60 or older, and 6,297 women” slaughtered is anywhere close to reasonable. It’s not even that they are collateral damage, civilians make up HALF of casualties that we know about!

        • Literally, Netanyahu’s campaign slogan was “It’s Us or Them”.

        • Their officials and supporters state in no uncertain terms that the time has come to eradicate all Palestinians.

        • Experts at the UN have said there are “reasonable grounds” to believe the bar has been met for genocide, and while the UN won’t officially label it as such, they have officially told Israel that they are required to 1) “prevent a genocide”, and 2) get out of Gaza immediately. But Israel continues to flagrantly disregard both instructions.

        • Meanwhile, the right wing media sweeps it aside with inhumane, Onion-level headlines like “UN revises Gaza death toll, almost 50% less women and children killed than previously reported”. As though that…justifies something?!

        It’s not subtle, they’re not trying to hide it, they are in the process of eradicating a rival religion from the face of the earth because they know they’re in the position where every other first world country will help them do it, no questions asked. And we all just have to sit and watch it happen.

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          Are you saying that when Hamas are caught lying it shouldn’t be reported?

          Were you also outraged when Hamas said 500 Palestians were killed by IDF bombing AlAhli hospital and all the media outlets reported this as fact but the responsible ones later apologized and reported that was a blatant Hamas lie?

          Should we never correct stories when the facts come to light?

          Similarly there were no children killed by Hamas during October 7 despite some crazy Israeli guy lying in his “eyewitness” report (later debunked). I’m sure you were happy to have that be corrected.

          I am happy for all of the above to be corrected without having to frame it as justification for atrocities.

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            Yeah that’s what I’m saying.

            Not giving any time to blatantly bad faith arguments. You’re being willingly obtuse and you know it.

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              As though that…justifies something?!

              You started the bad faith argument. I was merely hoping you would self-reflect, and check yourself. Instead, you projected.

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                i did sorta tune you out after you spun the south africa genocide case into somehow being in israel’s favor after repeated injunctions by the ICJ

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                you’re constantly getting into fights with people on threads like this and it’s neither good for you, nor the people around you, nor the community. i’m giving you a 30 day cool-off from this section accordingly