I’m still going to tick the Kamala box, but I’m ashamed of how little she’s trying to be a good candidate. After Nov4, I’ll get going with direct action.
She was a big champion of Medicare for all in 2020. It is indeed a shame she isn’t talking about it now like she did last election. Judging from her 2020 rhetoric though, it is definitely something she would be open to doing if given a cooperative government, I think.
Well, there’s not much she can do atm as vice-president. It’s very well-known that Biden is very pro-Israeli.
Her rhetoric on the topic as a candidate has been very mixed. She’s been improving since she had that meeting with Uncommitted leaders. Hopefully she can have a better plan than “ask nicely for a ceasefire” to present to voters before the election.
people need to get over the israel/palestine thing. they’re going to kill each other. there’s nothing you can do about it. your precious conscience is not the most important thing in the world. if you get bogged down on one issue, you will miss the bigger issue.
Well, Israel offers the US a lot strategically, which is why we financially support them. Those finances could go to M4All. But we might be in a worse economic position if Israel loses, so we can’t fund stuff then either. That’s why Israel is hotly debated, outside of the humanity aspect (which no one cares about anyway or we’d be in other wars too).
Man you must really be angry at the rest of world too right? I mean at least her team is working for a cease fire, that’s more than the rest of the world is doing. Or are you pushing some form of narrative?
Oh and I’m sure your response will have something to say about dems not doing anything, need to cut funding, ect. I’ll say there’s a 10 year weapons contract that was signed in 2016. Then you’ll bring up the Leahy Law, then I’ll bring up without Israel Iran will run roughshot over the middle east killing loads of people.
Then we can go back and forth, I’ll ask two questions, you’ll answer one of them with some bullshit.
So, you can save it, I’ll leave it as it is and I’ll continue to be disgusted with Israel and the world by not stepping up and stopping the genocide. You can keep posting bullshit about it being the dems fault.
I was just answering a question with information I have gathered reading comments around here. Even the way I phrased it didn’t really include myself. Not sure why you inferred that I was so angry. If anything, your response is angry.
That is true, there’s a lot of bad actors here that you can’t mention what they really are or you’ll catch a ban. He/she looked liked one. If you ask these actors more than one question they consistently will use quotes and only answer one question, then spew their bullshit, It’s the “tell”. My frustration is with the mods that see this shit, see the reports, and do nothing.
Then we can go back and forth, I’ll ask two questions, you’ll answer one of them with some bullshit.
This sounds oddly like the debate surrounding Vietnam during the war, and comprises a lot of debate on the United States of America being the “world police”. As for me, the United States has failed to be any sort of world police. There is incredible polarization in its political parties, several territories that are governed yet cannot vote, the last two presidents both lying and suffering from old age, and a well-known problem of candidates being paid off. If the U.S. cannot be run well internally, it has no business meddling with foreign affairs, which includes giving weapons and troops to Israel. Despite the cruelty of Israel, there remains a bigger problem to solve–that being an incompetent nation having an excessively high military and an interventionist outlook.
So, you can save it, I’ll leave it as it is and I’ll continue to be disgusted with Israel and the world by not stepping up and stopping the genocide. You can keep posting bullshit about it being the dems fault.
Bullshit?
Harris has not indicated that she would waver in weapons sales to Israel and has not shown breaks with Biden’s handling of the war, aside from slight changes in rhetoric when addressing the human suffering in Gaza.
I’m voting for her because she’s not Trump, with the full knowledge and expectation that she’s not going to do shit on Gaza, Police Reform, UBI, M4A, Gun Violence, or anything else that might ruffle the feathers of the “center.”
Is it OK with you for me to be vocally upset about it, in exchange for giving her my vote?
I’m still going to tick the Kamala box, but I’m ashamed of how little she’s trying to be a good candidate. After Nov4, I’ll get going with direct action.
Exactly, her winning is not the end. We need to apply a massive amount of pressure since she is a neoliberal.
Who the fuck is disliking? This is it. We need to apply the pressure after Drumpf is taken care of.
What specifically do you think she should do better on?
Medicare for All. The insurance pyramid scheme is getting more and more insane
She was a big champion of Medicare for all in 2020. It is indeed a shame she isn’t talking about it now like she did last election. Judging from her 2020 rhetoric though, it is definitely something she would be open to doing if given a cooperative government, I think.
“open to” it is good, sure, but I want her to champion it. Bully pulpit and all that
Main issue for most people is the fact that she’s not trying harder to stop Israel from killing Palestinians.
Well, there’s not much she can do atm as vice-president. It’s very well-known that Biden is very pro-Israeli.
Her rhetoric on the topic as a candidate has been very mixed. She’s been improving since she had that meeting with Uncommitted leaders. Hopefully she can have a better plan than “ask nicely for a ceasefire” to present to voters before the election.
Harris said that as president, she would maintain the US alliance with Israel and “ensure Israel has the ability to defend itself.”
To most people that sounds like she’ll keep sending weapons which will then be used to murder Palestinians.
people need to get over the israel/palestine thing. they’re going to kill each other. there’s nothing you can do about it. your precious conscience is not the most important thing in the world. if you get bogged down on one issue, you will miss the bigger issue.
Well, Israel offers the US a lot strategically, which is why we financially support them. Those finances could go to M4All. But we might be in a worse economic position if Israel loses, so we can’t fund stuff then either. That’s why Israel is hotly debated, outside of the humanity aspect (which no one cares about anyway or we’d be in other wars too).
Man you must really be angry at the rest of world too right? I mean at least her team is working for a cease fire, that’s more than the rest of the world is doing. Or are you pushing some form of narrative?
Oh and I’m sure your response will have something to say about dems not doing anything, need to cut funding, ect. I’ll say there’s a 10 year weapons contract that was signed in 2016. Then you’ll bring up the Leahy Law, then I’ll bring up without Israel Iran will run roughshot over the middle east killing loads of people.
Then we can go back and forth, I’ll ask two questions, you’ll answer one of them with some bullshit.
So, you can save it, I’ll leave it as it is and I’ll continue to be disgusted with Israel and the world by not stepping up and stopping the genocide. You can keep posting bullshit about it being the dems fault.
I was just answering a question with information I have gathered reading comments around here. Even the way I phrased it didn’t really include myself. Not sure why you inferred that I was so angry. If anything, your response is angry.
You’re ok dude. It sounds like this guy/gal has had similar conversations and was frustrated by them. Understandable on both sides.
That is true, there’s a lot of bad actors here that you can’t mention what they really are or you’ll catch a ban. He/she looked liked one. If you ask these actors more than one question they consistently will use quotes and only answer one question, then spew their bullshit, It’s the “tell”. My frustration is with the mods that see this shit, see the reports, and do nothing.
Thanks <3
Israel is, as of 2024, running roughshot over the middle east, killing 40,000 people.
This sounds oddly like the debate surrounding Vietnam during the war, and comprises a lot of debate on the United States of America being the “world police”. As for me, the United States has failed to be any sort of world police. There is incredible polarization in its political parties, several territories that are governed yet cannot vote, the last two presidents both lying and suffering from old age, and a well-known problem of candidates being paid off. If the U.S. cannot be run well internally, it has no business meddling with foreign affairs, which includes giving weapons and troops to Israel. Despite the cruelty of Israel, there remains a bigger problem to solve–that being an incompetent nation having an excessively high military and an interventionist outlook.
Bullshit?
https://thehill.com/policy/international/4862241-harris-palestinian-activists-israel-gaza/
Also:
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/23/briefing/kamala-harris-convention-speech.html
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4852729-harris-issues-center-shifted/
I’m voting for her because she’s not Trump, with the full knowledge and expectation that she’s not going to do shit on Gaza, Police Reform, UBI, M4A, Gun Violence, or anything else that might ruffle the feathers of the “center.”
Is it OK with you for me to be vocally upset about it, in exchange for giving her my vote?
We operate with a vibes based approach here
/s 🙄