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    Fees are no problem, they come along with valuable services. Taxes is theft and is extracted by the use of violence then the funds are stolen, wasted, and used to commit murder.

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        I promote hardcore freedom in hopes that we may get at least some freedom. Just like the communists, they always go for starving and murdering everyone in hopes to get at least 40-60%

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      How would a guverment work without taxes? And if your argument is that a society works without a guverment, how would that work in regards to hospitals, firefighters, cops, social programs for the poor or homeless, etc?

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        The government should be extremely limited and funded by fees charged for useful services it provides, if needed a small sales tax could be instituted locally.

        Rights need to be restored back to the individual so people can take care of themselves as needed in terms of defense and health care instead of sending 80% of their income to be wasted relying on some horrible and inefficient system. Once we wrangle the state back down to size people will have more than enough wealth to give to charities to help the poor.

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          The government should be extremely limited and funded by fees charged for useful services it provides, if needed a small sales tax could be instituted locally.

          Congratulations you just described taxation.

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                Taxes is not voluntary, threats of violence and violence is used to extract wealth from victims.

                You have been indoctrinated that evil is OK on a “social scale”. You are a pawn dupe.

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                  Taxes are voluntary. Resign your citizenship and go stateless. It’s an option right here right now but I imagine your not going to do that since society is kinda nice to have around.

                  Nope, reading comprehension boss. I never once said I agree, I simply stated fact and reality.

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                    So we should have just told the slaves to resign and go master-less instead of trying to abolish slavery. After all who would pick the cotton if the slaves were not there…they were nice to have around.

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          on some horrible and inefficient system.

          Boy, do I have news for you about private companies. Turns out government works tend to be more efficient, and less wasteful than private.

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            Turns out it does not. 50% of stolen money (tax revenue) is used to murder people around the world.

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              What companies are making those weapons and arms used in wars? Private companies, paid for with tax dollars.

              Also, only 12% of the US federal budget went to the military in 2022. Social Security, Healthcare, and Welfare were all bigger parts of US federal spending, with medicare just being behind military spending.

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          Bro you’re quite literally boot licking a corporation commiting tax theft… Try harder or I dunno basic common sense if that fails.

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            Yea, communism is the most disgusting and degenerate ideology, I cant fathom how so many morons cling to this stupidity.

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              Lemme ask a question. Were your ancestors degenerate? How about the Bible, is the Bible degenerate? Where are we drawing these absurd moral lines.

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                Common sense, forcing people at gunpoint to do your will is immoral, degenerate and evil. This is what communism is about. Complete eradication of free will and only the will of the state be done.

                God is the embodiment of morality, He asks us to do His will because it is the best thing for us, however He will never force you to do anything.

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                  It’s not at gunpoint don’t be so dramatic blossom. That’s not what Communism is about, that’s what people who tend to screech about things they know not of tend to say and refuse to back it up in any way… wait that dies sound familiar.

                  Wrong. Morality is by definition imposed by man, the Bible even says so. He does, lemme ask you a question what happens if you sin. Hell right? So how is sin = hell more moral than pay tax = don’t go to jail or lose citizenship.

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                    Communism requires all power be held by the state and none by the individual. Like property, the state would, at gunpoint, snatch all property from those who earned it.

                    Your interpretation of the Bible is surface level and simplistic. Sin destroys you and leads you further away from God, it is a hell worse than any imaginable. Your god is the state, this is obvious.

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        Forcing people to pay up at gunpoint is not very civilized. Sounds like theft to me.

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            Stealing from others to provide yourself with “services” is theft. I do not want the state to decide what services I need and then steal the amount they think is needed.

            The vast majority of money stolen is wasted or used for evil, a tiny fraction goes to “services”, which by the way are horrible.

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        It’s absolutely crawling with authoritarians.

        I don’t care to spend much time determining if people are lefties or righties. Or care whatever other label they may use, because you’ll quickly find out that whichever affiliation they claim, they want to control what others do in different aspects of their lives and are not in support of individual liberty, self determination or personal responsibility.

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        Yes, lemmy specifically, it is loaded with hardcore communists who want to take away private property and give it all to the bankers using state violence.

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          give it all to the bankers

          That would be what the right wing is doing, actively. Left leaning people want to distribute the power and money back to the people.

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            No the left are duped morons who think they are “distributing” but in actuality they are just propping up banker power. The bankers have taken over the state and use it to dominate society. You have been duped.

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              You have been duped by the right wing. The left hasn’t ever been in power in the US. All the money going to Wallstreet and Bankers is pure right wing policy.

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                  Communism means communal ownership of goods and services. Giving everything to the bankers is 100% capitalism, not communism.

                  Do you not understand how dumb you sound right now?

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                    Communism is a system of deception where the rulers dupe simpleton slave minded fools, by promises of “equality” and “free stuff” into expanding power of the state which moves all control into the hands of the elite banker class because once they take over the currency they will buy every political slimeball.

                    This is exactly what has happened, you are championing your own enslavement you fool.