The ruling on Google’s search dominance was the first antitrust decision of the modern internet era in a case against a technology giant.
  • TheTechnician27@lemmy.worldEnglish
    312·
    5 months ago

    !degoogle@lemmy.ml

    I can’t root my Android phone right now to install something like LineageOS, but yesterday, I sat down, installed ADB, and got rid of a mountain of unnecessary crap that comes packaged with Android and which is installed as a “system package” so you’re not allowed to uninstall it normally (e.g. Gmail).

    It’s extremely easy.

    • Kokesh@lemmy.worldEnglish
      16·
      5 months ago

      Unlocking bootloader/flashing isn’t so easy for most people. I root every device I get, but for normal users this process isn’t easy. Also some manufacturers aren’t so friendly towards people unlocking bootloaders. I remember Sony lowering camera quality when you unlocked/installed Cyanogenmod back in Z2 times, or more recently Asus preventing you from unlocking completely.

      • PlutoniumAcid@lemmy.worldEnglish
        9·
        5 months ago

        Eupean banking apps refuse to launch on unlocked phones. And you need said banking apps as mandatory 2fa to log into your online banking system.

        So in EU you gotta choose between banking and rooting.

        • ISOmorph@feddit.orgEnglish
          61·
          5 months ago

          Don’t throw in all of europe into one pot. The banks in my country still sell separate PIN machines for 2FA, which work great.

          • PlutoniumAcid@lemmy.worldEnglish
            33·
            5 months ago

            Oh right, I completely forgot about the separate device that you have to plug into your computer and then also plug your card into the deviceand then enter your pin. It’s almost as convenient as having the phone app!

            • ISOmorph@feddit.orgEnglish
              4·
              5 months ago

              Well that sarcasm definitely backfired mate. The device I have is a QR Code scanner that works like a phone, with the important distinction that I can do with my actual phone what I damn well please.

            • cheddar@programming.devEnglish
              4·
              5 months ago

              You are talking about the id card reader, not independent 2FA devices that generate codes. Also, in some countries you can get a SIM card with special certificates that can be used for identification and document signing, they work on virtually any modern phone. I think that feature uses the SMS protocol underneath, but I couldn’t find the confirmation.

          • PlutoniumAcid@lemmy.worldEnglish
            2·
            5 months ago

            Didn’t work for me on a Samsung S6 or S10. Maybe I will try again some day but for now it’s not worth the risk of never being able to go back, thanks to the Samsung physical one-time fuse.

            My next phone should be a Pixel with Graphene…

          • progandy@feddit.orgEnglish
            2·
            5 months ago

            Which is only available for a limited set of devices, does not have root, locks the bootloader again and is probably professional enough to get banks to approve their signing key. For those reasons it is nor a viable solution for everyone.

            • ichbinjasokreativ@lemmy.worldEnglish
              2·
              5 months ago

              Fair point, I just wanted to mention that there are unofficial, de-googled OSs that do work with banking apps so that newbies don’t get the wrong impression

      • TheTechnician27@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        5 months ago

        Yeah, the bootloader really seems like a challenge. ADB fortunately is extremely easy, especially if you use a tool like App Manager from F-Droid to correspond package names to specific applications.

        Just adb shell when your phone is in developer mode and you hook up to your computer via USB, then pm uninstall --user 0 packagename.

  • Justagamer@lemmy.worldEnglish
    27·
    5 months ago

    If I am looking it up correctly, judge Amit Mehta was appointed by Obama (who had ties with Google), and still ruled google a Monopoly.

    I just like stuff like this as it shows a judge can put bias aside in a ruling at least once, supposedly.

    • vithigar@lemmy.caEnglish
      718·
      5 months ago

      Not really. It could be simply that in an effort to not appear biased he over corrected and ruled more harshly against Google.

      Now I’m not saying that this is what happened here, but it’s just another facet of why it’s important to avoid bias entirely, not simply trust that someone can rise above them.

      • Etterra@lemmy.worldEnglish
        12·
        5 months ago

        Except that bias is an inevitable consequence of human psychology. The trick is to minimize it.

        • vithigar@lemmy.caEnglish
          11·
          5 months ago

          Yes. That’s exactly my point. Minimizing it in this case means having a judge without any dotted line connections to Google.