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    It’s a good argument against trying sleeper/generation ships.

    In practice, though, the actual sleepers would be so happy to arrive to find a nice McDonalds and a charming small town instead of shuttling down into the middle of uninhabited Arrakis with a 3D printer and a prayer.

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      In practice, though, the actual sleepers would be so happy to arrive to find a nice McDonalds and a charming small town instead of shuttling down into the middle of uninhabited Arrakis with a 3D printer and a prayer.

      As a guy who sometimes gets told “Hey, don’t worry about that work you had to do, you can skip it”, hard agree. No better feeling in the world. And after thinking you’d have to build a whole civilisation from scratch? Yeah, nah, sign me up for the generation sleeper ship please.

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        A generation ship and a sleeper ship are two different things (that we can’t yet do). In one, you live on a ship so your kids can go to a new place. In the other, you don’t really live on a ship so you can go to a new place.

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        Imagine if a lost Spanish armada finally arrived at Florida, centuries late, musket-wielding conquistadors raiding a coastal naval academy while a prominent political VIP was giving a speech, taking them hostage like Hernán Cortés did with Moctezuma II (Aztec Empire) or Francisco Pizarro with Atahualpa (Inca Empire).

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      As a rule of thumb, I’m never happy to find a McDonalds.

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        Why waste your hate on it? I haven’t had McDonald’s in over 25 years now and it causes me no problems to just go past one and not think about it

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      It’s a good argument against trying sleeper/generation ships.

      But then you never send out ships. (Unless you do like embryos or something.)

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        The obvious solution to this is to just not send the faster shios to the new planet, or do but use it as a hub for further travel, and let the sleeper ship people fulfill their literal purpose.

        Celebrate them and support them theres more planets why even bother?

        The sleeper ship people would be going to a planet chosen because it was able, the faster ship people would likely be able to choose a better planet anyway.

        But also could just meet up with that sleeper ship and like take them with you

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          The science answer would be there’s probably not that many suitable planets. And probabilities of ships not making it means sending additional ships is a good idea.

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            Hard disagree on that answer. We have found thousands of possible planet candidates already and we aren’t looking that hard, relatively. The second we have the technical capability to actually get to any other solar system there will be a new instrument in space with the explicit purpose of finding planets we want to travel to

            Edit. This new instrument will not magically appear, i meant we will start the process of building one and putting it in place asap

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              Possible candidates. Because we don’t have the ability to actually know. And it has to be habitable to humans, agriculture, and animal husbandry, which is much stricter than possible (bacteria) life.

              As for using new planets for further exploration, it’s possible but will take time to develop the industry (while trying to build your new planet) and watch space for new targets.

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      Humans being humans, I bet there would end up being some huge animosity between the two groups.

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        I mean, we’re halfway through… not sure if a novel, but it’s surely like a young adult TV show or the setup for a looter shooter or something.

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      shuttling down into the middle of uninhabited Arrakis with a 3D printer and a prayer.

      Dune: Fremen Origin, by Brian Herbert and Kevin J Anderson.