Fats are quite difficult for the body to break down. But carbs, especially sugars, are really easy to digest. If one eats a lot of fat, it may actually make its way out unchanged.*
*I’m not a nutritionist, I just drank 250ml of olive oil after loosing a bet.
Ok, I am going to need more details about this played out. I am morbidly curious about what that much olive oil does to one’s insides and how bad of a stomach ache that was. Also, how fast can a person actually consume that much olive oil? Is it possible to attempt to chug it or is it too viscous? I have so many questions!
I did something similar on a long backpacking trip. I brought olive oil in a plastic bottle which I had chopped some small peppers into so I could add fat/ calories/flavor to backpacking food. On day eight, two days before we were hiking out, I was out of trail snacks, so I finished off the plastic bottle of oil because I was super hungry. It had about 200ml of oil in it I would say, so I just drank it, figuring what the hell, I need some calories.
I had stomach cramps so bad I couldn’t walk, I had to lie down. My backpacking partner had to put up my hammock for me, and after lying there in excruciating pain for about 90min, I then shit everything out of my stomach and bowels, which also hurt. Felt a little better but still had bad cramps. All in all, probably three hours of misery. We lost a whole afternoon of hiking, basically by the time I was ok again, we got about 2mi down trail for a better camp spot and just called it a day.
The peppers were pickled and then I chopped them up and added them. The pickling is really why they add flavor.
I regularly pickle my own peppers (and make my own fermented hot sauce), so I imagine that made a difference in terms of botulism. Still, good to know and thanks for the info.
Respect that you took the time to reply, even if it’s late. I had a feeling the texture of oil would be better problematic, but wasn’t expecting it to cause issues on both ends.
There are more calories sure but he’s going to be full from eating fatty pasta. Feeding him sugar is going to put his glycemic response into overdrive and make him hungry again in a few hours.
The context of the post is someone trying to get someone else fat. The context of the comment you replied to is talking about how sugar would be a better than fat towards that goal. Sugar is relevant because while you are correct that if you ate an additional equal weight of fats vs sugars, assuming equality of nutrient absorption, the person who ate additional fats would in theory gain weight. The issue here is that this theory does not reflect reality well enough. In reality, we observe patterns like how eating sugar will make you hungrier, causing you to eat more overall, and potentially creating a self-reinforcing cycle of weight gain. This argument is why people are talking about sugar and why it is relevant to the conversation’s context.
It’s not all about the calories. It’s true butter is dense in calories, but it’s dense in calories your body will convert the bulk of into useful things it needs.
Sugar OTOH, also adds a lot of calories, but your body will only use a small portion of it and convert the rest to fat for later use.
For nearly all of human evolution, sugar was a rarity and your body treated it as such, the wide access we have to sugar nowadays has only been a thing for a tiny blip of time as far as evolution is concerned
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Fats are quite difficult for the body to break down. But carbs, especially sugars, are really easy to digest. If one eats a lot of fat, it may actually make its way out unchanged.*
*I’m not a nutritionist, I just drank 250ml of olive oil after loosing a bet.
Ok, I am going to need more details about this played out. I am morbidly curious about what that much olive oil does to one’s insides and how bad of a stomach ache that was. Also, how fast can a person actually consume that much olive oil? Is it possible to attempt to chug it or is it too viscous? I have so many questions!
I did something similar on a long backpacking trip. I brought olive oil in a plastic bottle which I had chopped some small peppers into so I could add fat/ calories/flavor to backpacking food. On day eight, two days before we were hiking out, I was out of trail snacks, so I finished off the plastic bottle of oil because I was super hungry. It had about 200ml of oil in it I would say, so I just drank it, figuring what the hell, I need some calories.
I had stomach cramps so bad I couldn’t walk, I had to lie down. My backpacking partner had to put up my hammock for me, and after lying there in excruciating pain for about 90min, I then shit everything out of my stomach and bowels, which also hurt. Felt a little better but still had bad cramps. All in all, probably three hours of misery. We lost a whole afternoon of hiking, basically by the time I was ok again, we got about 2mi down trail for a better camp spot and just called it a day.
10/10 would recommend.
@WoahWoah Not to be the obnoxious didact in the room but I do feel compelled to point out that vegetables/herbs soaked in oil at room temp are generally not a good idea unless you like botulism poisoning: https://extension.oregonstate.edu/food/preservation/herbs-vegetables-oil-sp-50-701
Just for anyone who’s not aware! Honestly, immediately shitting yourself was not even close to the worst possible outcome lol.
The peppers were pickled and then I chopped them up and added them. The pickling is really why they add flavor.
I regularly pickle my own peppers (and make my own fermented hot sauce), so I imagine that made a difference in terms of botulism. Still, good to know and thanks for the info.
Maybe a bit late, but the worst thing about it was the texture while drinking and… wiping… because oil really needs soap to come off.
But other than that, it was pretty uneventful. But I also have a pretty non-problematic stomach that rarely complains.
Respect that you took the time to reply, even if it’s late. I had a feeling the texture of oil would be better problematic, but wasn’t expecting it to cause issues on both ends.
There are more calories sure but he’s going to be full from eating fatty pasta. Feeding him sugar is going to put his glycemic response into overdrive and make him hungry again in a few hours.
fats are filling, sugar isn’t.
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The context of the post is someone trying to get someone else fat. The context of the comment you replied to is talking about how sugar would be a better than fat towards that goal. Sugar is relevant because while you are correct that if you ate an additional equal weight of fats vs sugars, assuming equality of nutrient absorption, the person who ate additional fats would in theory gain weight. The issue here is that this theory does not reflect reality well enough. In reality, we observe patterns like how eating sugar will make you hungrier, causing you to eat more overall, and potentially creating a self-reinforcing cycle of weight gain. This argument is why people are talking about sugar and why it is relevant to the conversation’s context.
It’s not all about the calories. It’s true butter is dense in calories, but it’s dense in calories your body will convert the bulk of into useful things it needs.
Sugar OTOH, also adds a lot of calories, but your body will only use a small portion of it and convert the rest to fat for later use.
For nearly all of human evolution, sugar was a rarity and your body treated it as such, the wide access we have to sugar nowadays has only been a thing for a tiny blip of time as far as evolution is concerned