I understand that people enter the world of self hosting for various reasons. I am trying to dip my toes in this ocean to try and get away from privacy-offending centralised services such as Google, Cloudflare, AWS, etc.

As I spend more time here, I realise that it is practically impossible; especially for a newcomer, to setup any any usable self hosted web service without relying on these corporate behemoths.

I wanted to have my own little static website and alongside that run Immich, but I find that without Cloudflare, Google, and AWS, I run the risk of getting DDOSed or hacked. Also, since the physical server will be hosted at my home (to avoid AWS), there is a serious risk of infecting all devices at home as well (currently reading about VLANS to avoid this).

Am I correct in thinking that avoiding these corporations is impossible (and make peace with this situation), or are there ways to circumvent these giants and still have a good experience self hosting and using web services, even as a newcomer (all without draining my pockets too much)?

Edit: I was working on a lot of misconceptions and still have a lot of learn. Thank you all for your answers.

  • poVoq@slrpnk.net
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    5 months ago

    This is nonsense. A small static website is not going to be hacked or DDOSd. You can run it off a cheap ARM single board computer on your desk, no problem at all.

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      What?

      I’ve popped up a web server and within a day had so many hits on the router (thousands per minute) that performance tanked.

      Yea, no, any exposed service will get hammered. Frankly I’m surprised that machine I setup didn’t get hacked.

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        5 months ago

        Don’t leave SSH on port 22 open as there are a lot of crawlers for that, otherwise I really can’t say I share your experience, and I have been self-hosting for years.

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          Am I missing something? Why would anyone leave SSH open outside the internal network?

          All of my services have SSH disabled unless I need to do something, and then I only do it locally, and disable as soon as I’m done.

          Note that I don’t have a VPS anywhere.

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              My firewall, server, NAS and all my services have web GUIs. If I need SSH access all I have to do is enable it via web GUI, do what I need to, disable again.

              If push comes to shove, I do have a portable monitor and a keyboard in storage if needed, but have not had the need to use them yet.

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            5 months ago

            Some people want to be able to reach their server via SSH when they are not at home, but yes I agree in general that is not necessary when running a real home server.

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              5 months ago

              Yeah, I guess I’ve never needed to do that. That may change as I’m thinking of moving all my services from UnRaid to ProxMox to leave UnRaid for storage only.

              I guess that’ll bring me back here soon enough.

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        5 months ago

        I’ve been self-hosting a bunch of stuff for over a decade now, and have not had that issue.

        Except for a matrix server with open registration for a community that others not in the community started to use.

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          5 months ago

          Yes my biggest mistake was leaving a vps dns server wide open. It took months for it to get abused though.

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        5 months ago

        You left stuff exposed is the only explanation. I’ve had services running for years without a problem

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        I can’t say I’ve seen anything like that on the webservers I’ve exposed to the internet. But it could vary based on the IP you have if it’s a target for something already I suppose.

        Frankly I’m surprised that machine I setup didn’t get hacked.

        How could it if all you had was a basic webserver running?