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Obvious animal-industrial complex propaganda. Plant based proteins have way higher values than shown here (eg. boiled chickpeas have 15g, most tofus have 20g+ etc., just search any one of them up). The list also ignores staple, high-protein foods of this type (like beans and seeds), while including very low-protein foods that nobody thinks of as a source of protein (brocolli and avocado, really?), making the comparison seem less favorable.
Staging your meals around complete proteins is also completely unnecessary as long as your diet is even somewhat varied. Your body doesn’t need to get every amino acid at the same time to be able to make proteins.
Pretty sure it kinda does, maybe not the same meal but within a day or so.
Your body doesn’t have a way to store incomplete proteins for later construction when the missing essential aminos arrive. Any aminos from proteins that can’t be used to build needed proteins will be turned into glucose, and if you don’t need the glucose turned into fat for energy storage.
Think of proteins like long words you have to spell by eating the right letters. If you don’t have the letters to spell a word it can’t be spelled. Your body has the ability to create some letters but some must be eaten. If you don’t eat the needed letters your body will make do by eating itself (normal autophagy), which is fine on occasion for periods, but your body needs complete proteins.
Adding: You’re right about a varied diet being easy enough for most to get the aminos they need. Many vegan/vegetarian dishes are oriented around complete proteins, eat these common dishes, the thinking about complete proteins was done for you long ago.
Just to check, did a quick search on usda.
- egg - 10g
- chicken breast - 22.5g
- canned chickpea - 7g
- random tofu brand - 9.4g
Values aren’t off that much, tho meat protein value seems to be overstated. It’s still likely propaganda, since they’re not calorie-wise protein which gives better outlook for balaced diet.
Both of your questions are in the picture.
Indeed. You ninja’d me before I could remove my question.
Why include avocado and brown rice over protein rich foods like tempeh or seitan?
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Absolutely terrible way to compare foods. The fact that many veg proteins are incomplete means they only have some of the amino acids we need, and must be paired with other foods to get a complete set. Generally that’s “rice and beans” kinda combos. Though some plants have complete proteins
Also there are obvious downsides to many of the foods on the right side, like high cholesterol/saturated fats that will kill you from heart disease, and red meat being linked to diabetes/cancer
What is this sorting?
I think people are upset with the foods included for comparison when they should be upset with metric being used to compare them. Protein per 100g tells me protein to weight but what I really care about is protein to total calorie count per 100g. That tells me if the food is efficient in delivering me protein and even that should be coupled with calorie per gram or volume per gram or something to show how much of the food can I eat.
The graphic makes almonds look amazing, for instance, but you get a handful of almond for 100g and also a fourth of your daily caloric intake at 550 kcal. Which means they’re not exactly an efficient protein source. Where as tofu is rather efficient at only 80 kcal per 100g.
tofu is mostly water. If you want to compare anything by mass you need to remove the water
What? Surely that’s not how nutrition labels are made. If I look at the label for almonds and I look at the label for tofu and they both list 100g of X has Y protein in it - surely they’re comparable. So what is your point? Are you suggesting I need to dehydrate tofu to determine it’s real nutrition? I don’t know if that’s practical or meaningful in anyway. I guess you’re suggesting that if we cook out the water certain foods like tofu get even more macro nutritionally dense?
In the US nutrition labels are per serving not per 100g. A serving of tofu might weigh 123 grams while a serving of almonds is 20 grams. Because the tofu is full of water. You can’t easily compare nutrition content for foods based on their weight.
US labels also contain weight. And again, unless you are baking all the water out and curious about that nutritional value, you’re picking up a package that has nearly identical labeling and testing standards and are therefore comparable and using that to make nutritional choices. In this case almonds are more calorically dense than tofu and have less protein per calorie. Water included or not.
Where as tofu is rather efficient at only 80 kcal per 100g.
Tofu is a heavily-processed “food,” so it’s the last thing I’d be holding up as any kind of standard, here.
Inspiring, I’d like to see a better guide.
And where are the mushrooms?
They’re not animal or plant.
Mushrooms are effectively plants when talking about food.
We don’t ever say the food groups are “fruits, vegetables, and fungus.”
I don’t know fungus sounds tasty to me. It is not planted based nor is meat with herbs.
Thems the breaks when you’re raised in myco-phobic cultures.
Fungus are closer to us than plants, genetically.
Science knows next to nothing about the extents of fungal connections & interactions (compared to acquired knowledge of plant & animal biology).
Agriculture is wallowing in the dark ages, denying myco-culture wherever possible.
Things are starting to turn around. Some colleges and universities actually have mycology departments now, though many current mycologists had to declare their major as ‘biology’ to arrive there.
I’d like to see this normalized by dry weight or by calorie instead
Protein / calories, and glycemic index, right. There are a few other considerations, but primarily these, for me
Reading the comments, this is more an uncool guide.
This is the new norm of posting information on public platforms like this.
Confidently post the wrong or controversial information that will inflame everyone on all sides.
Sit back and watch all sorts of new information from all sides in the comments.
Seems like the new norm on Lemmy is to post nothing and have your feed flooded by ContentBot.
Plenty of comments here but 80% of other posts mirrored from Reddit are a graveyard.
Agree this is animal industry propaganda. Providing some data on the environmental impacts of various protein sources: https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/ghg-per-protein-poore
i wouldn’t rely on poore-nemecek 2018 for the chemical makeup of co2, let alone weighing ghg emissions from various sources.
What is 75% of chicken then? Water?
Close. Chicken is 25% protein, 50% water, and 25% B’gawk. Roughly on average.
Plus a special power to regress completely back to their ancestral forms in their minds and attack, until you hit them with a backpack and knock some fucking sense back into them
Considering that people are somewhere around 70% water, that would make sense.
my god the original reddit comment section is a shitshow
The kinda important bit this graphic leaves out is carbohydrates.
Legumes have a TON of protein, but also a lot of carbs. A 1:1 protein replacement would add a boatload of carbs if not adjusted for.
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