What health care? My “cheap” state health care that goes up 40 dollars every six months? It started at 30 and now I’m paying over 160 a month for it. Stop fucking around and make this single payer already. There are fuckloads of Americans. We can pay it even without the obscenely rich helping.
What health care?
I came here to say exactly that.
See the thing is Democrats, if you are going to paint yourselves in as the heroes, you actually have to go after the things you say you will; not just campaign on them and then disregard them when things become ‘difficult’.
What would you like for them to have done over the past year+ that would have been possible with a GOP-controlled House?
In 2021, Democrats pushed, and in some cases passed, bills to enact sweeping drug price reforms, permanently extend Obamacare subsidies and expand Medicaid in the 12 holdout states that have refused to do so, and pour hundreds of billions into home health care for the elderly and people with disabilities and add dental, vision and hearing benefits to Medicare.
edit: Here’s more stuff negotiated by Democrats recently, if you care. (I suspect you don’t)
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/biden-daca-healthcare-coverage-new-rule-rcna150473
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/03/04/biden-health-care-task-force-inflation-00144713
https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/07/politics/biden-health-care-costs/index.html
https://apnews.com/article/biden-insurance-short-term-junk-ff056e344b44d5524210607e4810a191
All since the GOP took over the House.
Vote Democrat: It Could Be Worse™
And some more:
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/biden-daca-healthcare-coverage-new-rule-rcna150473
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/03/04/biden-health-care-task-force-inflation-00144713
https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/07/politics/biden-health-care-costs/index.html
https://apnews.com/article/biden-insurance-short-term-junk-ff056e344b44d5524210607e4810a191
All since the GOP took over the House.
Vote Democrat: It Could Be Worse™
Vote Democrat: It Could Be Worse™*
*[and were gonna keep it that way]
I guess you’re too young to remember the Obamacare debate. The Dems barely managed to pass a plan inspired by Mitt Romney’s Mass. plan.
It’s hard to do nice things when the GOP is actively trying to destroy the social net.
What’s your excuse for California with a bullet proof dem super majority who strikes down single payer every time it comes up? They are all owned by the same corporations
You do realize there’s a difference between one single state doing something, and the whole country?
Also, where’s your great alternative to the Dems? I’d love to hear all about it.
If a state with a bullet proof democrat super majority can’t fix things like healthcare, wages, housing, etc democrats on the federal level couldn’t do it either. They would find, like California does, a rotating villain to blame for not being able to govern.
Edit sp
Also, where’s your great alternative to the Dems? I’d love to hear all about it.
Much complaining but no solution
I don’t think you’ll find many people that don’t look at our current healthcare system as a wreck. People are paying $150-$300 a month for a coupon that takes 70% off their next hospital bill of $200,000.
A better message would be that Trump is coming for our Democracy.
But this current message lacks any perspective on our current healthcare system.
A lot of old ppl are on free government healthcare. That is who Biden is targeting with this statement.
Wonder if it’s occurred to Biden that millennials now outnumber the boomers.
And then there’s gen z voters.
Do they vote more then that boomers?
Yes. .
It can get a bit murky, based on how people split the age sections. Gen X, for example is frequently split between two age ranges (they’re people between ~45 and 60, and for example the census splits people as 34-65, or others at 55.)
Also keep in mind that boomers tend to lean red where millennials tend to lean blue.
It doesn’t help that boomers are dying off. Cuz you know. that happens.
Thanks for the sources.
what are the boxes to tick in order to be on this list ?
Over 65. That’s what Medicare is.
Ya’ll are only paying $150-$300?
My wife and I are $500 each, and it doesn’t cover much until the yearly 5 figure deductible is hit.
what the fuck
Yep. I said that phrase dozens of times when I was evaluating our options too.
So, genuinely, why even pay for it?
You’re going to go bankrupt anyway. Might as well save the cash, open a trust and transfer it in there so debt collectors can’t touch it, then file for chapter 7 bankruptcy. Then just don’t pay the absurd bills.
The idea of health insurance is to not go bankrupt if we get sick. A 5 figure bill is not pleasant, but not insurmountable for us.
So if one of us ends up with medical bills for $800k, we’ll spend something like $30k if treatment straddled two years, and our insurance pays the rest (theoretically).
It sucks ass, but health insurance is pretty much useless at general day to day health coverage that costs in the 3-4 figure range. But absolutely essential for the catastrophic life saving coverage that would wipe us out.
Of course, due to in/out coverage bullshit, and insurance companies fighting claims, there’s always the strong possibility we get wiped out anyway. But that’s another discussion.
Here’s something fucked up.
I’m a software engineer making serious bucks, and my job’s plan is like a fraction of most people. When I worked at a bar, I was paying twice as much in today’s dollars.
There’s a lot of people who don’t want democracy …
He’s gonna grab us all by the pre-existing condition
Wait, you guys are getting healthcare?
What healthcare lol?
Sorry, i dont make enough money to qualify for health care subsidies. Its an oversight he campaigned on fixing, but no mention since being elected.
I’m sorry you’re in that situation, but this is wrong.
He successfully created subsidies that brought Affordable Care Plan enrollment up and brought the number of uninsured Americans down from 14.5% to 11% through the American Rescue Plan Act, which removed a cap on eligibility for subsidies above 400 percent of the poverty level and limited premiums to 8.5% income among other things.
Every action he’s tried to take in the healthcare front has been blocked by others, lawsuits from drug companies, Congress, you name it. States were supposed to take increased funding and expand Medicaid access for people outside the income range for ACA at the same time as the increased subsidies. Many did. Several did not (take a guess which).
He’s certainly a flawed president and I wish Democrats ran someone stronger, but this critique is provably false. He has mentioned it and tried to take actions to improve healthcare access.
Of course he could do more, but saying “no mention” is either willfully ignorant or trollish or angered exaggeration. This is on top of the health care improvements he managed to get into the Inflation Reduction Act and proposed healthcare funding in the budget he released in March (which is again supposed to expand Medicaid and Medicare).
which removed a cap on eligibility for subsidies above 400 percent of the poverty level
This is the opposite of what i said. I dont make too much to qualify, i dont make enough to qualify.
States were supposed to take increased funding and expand Medicaid access for people outside the income range for ACA at the same time as the increased subsidies.
Im aware. This happened 14 years ago. He campaigned on closing this gap, he has not mentioned it since elected.
And I’m saying you’re wrong and completely ignoring the actions he took to address it. It was mentioned. States were to expand Medicaid in conjunction with his expanding ACA explicitly to handle situations like you brought up.
His proposed budget involves $150 billion earmarked for Medicaid explicitly to expand it to cover people in your situation where the 10 states did not expand coverage as they were supposed to after his American Rescue Plan Act in 2021 and Inflation Reduction Act in 2022. This was not
14years ago. That was3and2respectively. And the budget is being debated currently.He’s mentioned it. He’s been trying to tackle it.
States were to expand Medicaid in conjunction with his expanding ACA explicitly to handle situations like you brought up.
This was not 14 years ago.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medicaid_coverage_gap#
“Expansion of Medicaid was a key aspect of the ACA when it was signed into law by President Barack Obama in March 2010”
He would have to be quite a fool to make the same mistake again of leaving it up to the states to expand Medicaid
The health care that is so good our life expectancy has gone down
He talking about the shitty health insurance protecting corporate profits plans we are subjected to? It needs to be struck down.
OK, the only US candidate to mention Universal Healthcare for all Americans was Marianne Williamson. The rest do not give a shit about the massive healthcare dumpster fire.
The one who was pandering about healthcare in the campaign and did nothing? At least RepubliKKKans are open about being fascist genocides not just cover it up with an empty speech.
This dude, he just can’t keep his foot out his mouth.
We don’t have healthcare you fucking fossilized piece of shit.
Says the guy who has advocated for the removal of Medicare
Is that true? I didn’t hear about that. Please provide a reputable source as proof.
Being reported for “misinformation” but that’s because of the short term memory problem most people have.
The year was 1984 and then Senator Biden worked with Republicans in the Senate to cut COLA for both Medicare and Social Security.
It passed the Senate by a single vote. You could argue that vote was Biden’s.
It then promptly died in Tip O’Neill’s House.
Without that additional context, it is disinformation which is clearly intended to affect views of Biden’s current policies.
My brother in Christ, Joe Biden was and still is a tradition Republican who calls himself a Democrat. He is saying what ever needs to get votes. He has shown multiple times that he has no intention of going through with it.
the short term memory problem most people have.
The year was 1984
Bruh, its not ‘short term memory’ issues when you’re talking about shit from 40 years ago. That’s generations of time. Spoken word oral tradition shit.
Bring up shit that’s happened this century, not shit that happened before the internet was more than just ARPANET or wearing onions on your belt wasn’t the hip new thing.
