I used to use NewPipe back in the days of yore. Then I got Youtube Premium since it bundled in Youtube Music as well which I used. But the former’s app on mobile is a shit show. Even after paying, you are asked to tip random creators, purchase merchandise[ which are shown as actual ads below videos] and join channels to access exclusive videos for more money. Basically pay money once, and then pay more money for more content.

Okay, one could argue atleast the above goes to a channel’s creators and helps them. How would one say then that the Youtube app still doesn’t have a systemwide option to choose video quality for all videos. New Pipe had that option long ago, but Youtube thinks it’s user base are immature who need to be coddled with only two options like “High” and “Data Saver”.

Despite having a Premium thing, I finally crossed over to a Newpipe fork Tubular [available on F Droid] today simply because the paying experience on Youtube Mobile is so bad. I can’t fathom how bad it would be for free customers using the official app.

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    8 months ago

    YouTube is unwatchable for me without sponsorblock so I’ve liked the newpipe forks that include. And on desktop I love freetube because it goes further and lets me block channels.

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    8 months ago

    I pay also, and use revanced. I watch YouTube more than any other service, and want to support some of the creators I like.

    I would feel a lot less self hatred for paying google if they released a YouTube ‘Lite’ app that dropped everything related to shorts. Paying users should be able to use the app however they want, without having extra features rammed down their throats.

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        8 months ago

        Because it’s the new trend to be like tiktok.
        I enjoy the ones I get recommended. Usually from channels I am already subscribed to anyway.
        Very rarely get a random one (I don’t (doom) scroll the feed) and YT seemded to get, that I am not someone to click on it.

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    8 months ago

    Am somewhat late to the (third) party, why are most people here using a newpipe fork? Is the original compromised somehow?

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      8 months ago

      No Tubular is just NewPipe with Sponsorblock. The original devs didn’t want to add that, so a fork was created to add it.

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        8 months ago

        Got it, just switched over myself because I liked the differences in the description. Thanks for letting me know!

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      8 months ago

      https://i.ibb.co/Y3YdvMN/Screenshot-20240512-132547.jpg

      There is clearly merchandising on some videos which constitutes an advertisement in my opinion. Also, a useless Thanks button that only exists(on certain videos I think) to tip large creators more money. Sure, I can ignore it, but why not give the user the option to completely disable it from settings?

      I opened the same video in NewPipe and both of these atrocities weren’t there.

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        8 months ago

        Pay to go see a concert. Band has merchandise on sale. Oh shit… What do you do? First answer wins.

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          8 months ago

          Easy! Lie down on the ground and throw a tantrum because a band I like has the audacity to provide an option for me to support them further.

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            8 months ago

            Yeah I really don’t get the argument that paying for YouTube premium should hide links that directly support a creator you like.

            If anything I’d complain if YouTube hid them as it would be an easy “I got mine” response

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          8 months ago

          Is it t-shirts for sale at a little table off to the side somewhere you’ll probably never see unless you go looking? Or is there an advertising billboard behind the stage that lights up after every song?

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    8 months ago

    I might be mistaken but, I think cellular carriers force 480p. I always use a VPN and PipePipe, LibreTube, or Clipious so, I don’t know for sure. Lol And, I do look for PeerTube content sometimes.

    Yeah, I don’t think any of the “creator” advert things you mentioned have much to do with the big G. I’d guess that 70% of that goes to the channel. Hopefully that much or even more.

    Either way, as someone who makes music and goes to local shows, I generally avoid YT and other big platforms. I encourage other bands to upload to PT and FunkWhale. They may as well upload torrents with how much artists get paid from streaming, and use whatever third party tipping platforms.

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    8 months ago

    The video quality problem really winds me up. Not gonna canc though because I bought through Turkey and it costs less than a dollar a month.

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    8 months ago

    Are you using the YouTube Music app, or the YouTube app and loading the music section? I’ve never seen anything you’re describing.