• CicadaSpectre@lemmygrad.ml
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    1 year ago

    I’m sure it will backfire for the liberal element in the West, but this is exactly what the fascists could have hoped for. And unless those would-be terrorists are dealt with in the aftermath of the war, I foresee a fascist shitstorm in a region that’s primed for fascist takeover.

    I can’t shake the feeling that more than a few people planned for a Russian victory from the beginning, martyring Ukraine for a fascist revival in Europe. Not saying people didn’t genuinely think Ukraine could win, just that there were cleverer puppeteers who sacrificed the country for a wider fascist movement.

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      I can’t shake the feeling that more than a few people planned for a Russian victory from the beginning, martyring Ukraine for a fascist revival in Europe.

      It’s possible, but I genuinely think most of the ruling class in the west buys their own bs, particularly in the USA. Sometimes the military brass is more realistic because they know their resources.

      I think this is why we are seeing other countries starting to make moves to break from the US’ grip. I expect more situations like in Niger over the next few years.

      Hopefully no nukes get dropped.

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        1 year ago

        True, but I’m thinking about the grassroots fascist orgs that coordinate online, that got involved in this whole project. I’ve talked to fascists before, and there is a breed of them that really would burn a whole country down to incite fascist sympathy across Europe. If the US gave them power, knowingly or unknowingly, in Ukraine, then I think there’s more at work than just the ghouls in leadership.