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  • That was also the only factual assertion I made. I posited a guess afterwards, and drew potential conclusions afterwards.

    Yes, uncharitable guesses that were unwarranted and amounted to a strawman.

    I’ll spell it out real simple for you since you seem to need that…

    it sounds like you’re not boycotting Steam’s

    I never said I was boycotting either Denuvo or Steam. You’re trying to imply here that I have a contradiction in my argument but I don’t. The only thing I said was they’re both bad.

    so long as it can be circumvented, you don’t especially care, right?

    Trying to reinforce your own strawman with more assumptions in a transparent attempt to make me seem a hypocrite.

    For the purposes of the argument, circumvention and performance are two very distinct concerns.

    This wasn’t mentioned in my comment thread at all until you brought it up and even then it’s only in the context of your strawman.

    If it can be shown that Steam DRM also affects performance, what would be your opinion then?

    As I said before numerous times, I think Steam DRM is bad. Whether or not it affects performance wouldn’t change my opinion. This isn’t the gotcha you seem to think it is.

    Here, educate yourself about informal fallacies.

    If you don’t want to comment, just keep your hand off the Post button

    Make me.



  • It’s not. If “That game has denuvo so I won’t buy it because I hate DRM” if a stance you have, you should also not buy it because of Steam’s DRM. Otherwise you’re not true to your own word and therefore unbelievable.

    Strawman fallacy. You’re arguing against something I didn’t say. I did in fact say “They’re both DRM, they’re both bad.”.

    As surprising as it may be for you, it’s possible to be against both anti-cheat and DRM, which I am. You’re the one here defending Denuvo and trying to minimise other people’s opinions on it.

    I won’t be replying anymore as you’re clearly not here in good faith.




  • I get that people don’t like the thought of “I’m not fully owning my game” which is reasonable, but in that case, your reason for not playing pargmata shouldn’t be denuvo, but steam itself.

    This is whataboutism. They’re both DRM, they’re both bad. I should point out though that it is up to the developer/publisher whether they use Steam DRM. There are games on Steam that you can play the game without Steam (Cyberpunk 2077 for example).

    As far as your comments about anti-cheats… at least those are actually trying to do something for the gameplay experience. Where people disagree with them is how it is going about it or whether different multiplayer models might negate the need for it.

    DRM though exists solely for the publishers/developers, is very debatable whether it has much real benefits for them and is always a negative for customers. IMO DRM is the far more important issue in gaming.