Scientists successfully replicate historic nuclear fusion breakthrough three times::Scientists in California make a significant step in what could one day be an important solution to the global climate crisis, driven primarily by burning fossil fuels.

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    11 months ago

    Nuclear fusion isn’t the solution to the climate crisis. It’s decades away, if it ever happens; the climate crisis is something we’re having to tackle now.

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      Researching this doesn’t prevent renewables being researched or rolled out? I think the nuclear scientists developing this might be better researching this as opposed to researching fission reactors or researching renewables as this is likely their area of expertise.

      Fusion is a long shot but if it was achieved it would be world changing (hopefully for the better)

      • MudSkipperKisser@lemmy.world
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        Agreed, as a whole we need to stop the argument line of reasoning that one alternative is at the expense of another, and then admonishing one because it’s not the “better” of the two options. Multiple things can happen at once, progress isn’t necessarily linear.

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          Let’s be honest a research isn’t at the expense of others but greedy politicians and CEO’s are at the expense of every research and everything we researched.

          In France we got a lot of nuclear fission, probably the best idea we could invest in right? Except investors took any money they could and we never spent enough on upkeep of the facilities nor the next generation of qualified workers. And now we got old power plant that are very hard to deal with.

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            11 months ago

            Research budget for energy is concentrated on nuclear since decades in France. And FNN is focus on small or middle industry in relationship with nuclear.

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      11 months ago

      Solution:

      No more Private Jets or Yachts.

      Transportation Infrastructure Overhaul to transition away from cars and diversify to a set of electric or non-fuel forms of transportation (Lightrail, Train, Electric Busses, Bikes, Lamborfeeties.)

      But to do the latter we’d have to go on a major guerilla marketing campaign to undo decades of car company propaganda.

      And for the former we’d basically have to perform a miracle.

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      11 months ago

      I just bought a house 30 meters above see level. If I calculated this right I will get to retire in a beach front property. That’s the best solution to climate change you can get today.

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      11 months ago

      Fusion could become perfect and effective tomorrow and it still wouldn’t solve the climate crisis because of the power and influence of entrenched corporations

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    11 months ago

    Green capitalism will not restore our collapsing ecosystem. Green capitalism is not collectively owned or controlled by the masses of people.

    Green capitalism is a narrative that diverts attention from the hyper exploitative conditions we face under the rule of the state and capitalist elite.

    Capitalism is a tumor that has the capacity to kill life itself. We need to become organized to sustain life and a future without capitalism.

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      Outta curiosity, how is fusion viable for bomb research? (Ignoring the fact that the world’s current nuclear arsenal is already incredibly powerful, and that 100mega ton bombs have been designed and 50Mton bombs have been tested)

      Edit: thank you to all for providing additional context, I see your point regarding more research is valuable for both weapons and energy research, though to say definitively that it is used for weapons research is neither here nor there.

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        11 months ago

        You can always run few extra experiments to make your hydrogen bombs smaller or more reliable.

      • skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de
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        Currently fielded devices haven’t been tested, all you can do is to do some non-explosive tests and simulate the rest. Data from NIF are used in the latter

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          Thermonuclear bombs are a mixture of fission AND fusion, the amount of energy required to achieve fusion requires fission to provide said energy.

          Lasers igniting fusion is a bit of a more of a stretch to create a weapon from (the lasers require 300 mega joules of energy which in turn is 2mj of energy into the reaction and 3mj energy out); it may provide context and more information for fusion as a whole but that information is relevant to both weapons and energy research, not one or the other.