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      Old because they’re mostly used, repurposed crypto mining rigs, according to the article.

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          I was clarifying that ‘old’ was not a descriptor of its age (it’s a very modern GPU), rather a description of its potential wear and tear; so ‘old’ as in beat up.

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        FYI, LTT did a video showing ex crypto cards are totally fine. But let’s keep that between us so the second hand market for those cards keeps low prices.

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          They can be fine. If they were properly undervolted and cooled. It’s still a gamble.

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          After the last controversy around him, I’d take everything they release with a huge mound of salt.

          Linus Media Group’s main goal is to maintain their break neck schedule of releasing content, not to ensure 100% accuracy or that they’ve properly listed all caveats. Not to say that they don’t care about accuracy, but that it is greatly eclipsed by their release schedule.

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      That was my first thought, they are only last gen guys! And easily comparable to the top of the line in the current gen!

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    At least having those GPUs training neural networks is vastly preferable to having them mining Bitcoin.

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      GPUs havent been mining bitcoin for a long time now. Probably almost 10 years.

      The last big coin mined by GPU was ethereum but that stopped last year

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        Source?

        Edit: Multiple, independent sources have been provided. Thank you, Lemmy.

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          The coin literally went from proof of work to proof of stake or some shit like that. All mining of ETH will no longer generate any value.

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                Excellent source, thank you.

                Edit: I’m being downvoted because I asked a guy for a source, he provided one, and I thanked him?

                I’m so fucking done with you dipshits.

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                I am over on kbin.social and upvotes and downvotes don’t carry over instances, but on my end there are no downvotes at all in this whole thread. I am just stoned and thought that was interesting.

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                I didn’t downvote anything. I asked for a source.

                But the Reddit classic of people taking everything as a person attack has carried over to Lemmy, I see.

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                  Where did I say it was an attack? Now you’re projecting. I just find it frustrating when someone is being downvoted for something that is verifiably true. It wasn’t directed at you specifically.

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                Lmao, you don’t have to comment if you don’t know what you’re talking about

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                  I’m sorry I commented on what I knew about, but I have no control over what the original poster said regarding GPUs, I don’t know what he meant by that either.

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          You got the sources you asked for, but your sentiment wasn’t wholly off.

          There are still other crypto being mined on video cards.

          So if you dont think that’s worthwhile for all crypto there’s still a lot of waste

          If you specifically don’t like bitcoin, you’d need to see what the other projects using video cards do to make an informed decision

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        My Steam Deck replaced my old laptop and I keep it at work since its usually not busy. No need for it at home since my PC is faster.

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          If you’re not doing huge models a used 2080ti can be picked up on eBay for 300 ish bucks which is pretty capable (best price to performance cuda core count I think)— just a little lacking in ram for huge stuff.

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              1080 ti is still a beefy card, about the same performance as a 3060 ti / 4060, just without the AI core shenanigans and more VRAM - not bad for a 6 year old card. I recently updated from a 1060 to a 3060 ti, which gave me roughly 50% extra performance, you’d have to grab a 4080/4090 to do the same. But yeah, not fast enough anymore if you do 4k or high hz stuff.

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                At this point I’m just waiting a few more generations. I don‘t think there going to be reasonably affordable any time soon.

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    Aside from anything else, the cooler looks spiffy. Not an over-the-top RGB monstrosity, and it’s obviously designed to be compact.

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      The coolers work well, but at the cost of noise. under any gaming load they are exceedingly noticeable. The classic use case for this form factor is often servers, where noise doesn’t matter. you also see these on more professional cards, but their whole power budget is often under 100W, so remotely the same category.

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    what is the appeal of blower-style cooling?, i always heard about it being worse for cooling

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      They’re really only worse in the sense that they can be louder. In a datacenter/mining rig/etc where you don’t care about noise at all, they’re pretty much the best solution to cooling a large amount of cards as they blow air out near the outputs instead back into the rack.

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          Most mainstream solutions will be quieter than a blower at full tilt (i.e. the normal GPU design on having fans on the face that blow air back into the case). That said, blowers aren’t inherently stupidly loud or anything. I’ve got a reference model blower 5700XT and have the fan curve set that I can’t ever hear it with my (open back) headphones on and never really go above 80C. If I said fuck it I could turn the fan curve up and have it sound like an original Xbox 360, but my temps sure would drop!

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          The liquid system really just helps move the heat to a new place in your rig. To get rid of it, in general the bigger the fan the more air it can displace at a lower speed, which in turn means less noise.

          A good liquid system which moves the heat to a radiator at the top/front/back (depending on where your have clearance) of your case and big fan or fans to push it out would probably work best

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          The quietest solution is passive but you won’t get very good performance out of that.

          It’s all a balance

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    Repurposed batches of “RTX 3080 20G AI” cards featuring blower-style coolers and with 20GB GDDR6X are being spotted in large quantities over in China, stored and sold via AliExpress.

    These are yet another attempt to work around U.S export controls that now prohibit the sale of the fastest data center and consumer GPUs to China and other countries.

    Prolific leaker I_Leak_VN also found many of these RTX 3080 20G AI blowers in warehouses via the Xianyu app, a Chinese-based used goods e-commerce website owned by Alibaba group.

    LLM (Large Language Model) workloads greatly benefit from more VRAM, and there are other offerings showing repurposed RTX 3080 Ti 24GB GDDR6X cards.

    Necessity is the mother of invention, and we’re now seeing Chinese retailers repurposing RTX 3080, 3090, and 4090 “consumer” graphics cards into AI accelerators to at least partially work around the U.S. sanctions.

    Earlier, these GPUs were sold for dirt cheap as miners wanted to get rid of them quickly to recover some of their investment.


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