• tsdani11@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    I know this isn’t food illness related but Odor is big business. In the solid waste management business lawsuits over odor have been filed across many states for multimillion dollar settlements. Subjectivity is high and devices like “Scentometer” and “Nasal-Ranger”(I could be mistaken with this particular name) exist to help detect and quantify odors.

    If it can “sniff out” the food poisoning like the ppb of a VOC generated from one bacteria, that could be amazing. I’m sure most of us have had a food poisoning incident and I would certainly have loved to avoided that event. 🤢

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    1 year ago

    1 hour?

    “OK everybody leave that fresh food out in the counter while we wait to see if it’s spoiled.”

    -waiting noises-

    • JStanten@alien.topB
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      That’s a lot faster than culturing, sequencing, or otherwise identifying pathogens. I’ve worked in a QC lab before starting grad school and that takes 2-3 days +.

      The challenge for these electronic noses is determining what exactly they are picking up on…we don’t always know what they are “smelling”

    • walterpeck1@alien.topB
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      1 year ago

      I had a similar thought. After reading the article this seems to be more for industrial or investigative use, where the one hour delay is actually fast. It doesn’t seem like something that is intended to be used to double check if random food is spoiled in your house. Think of a situation in which foodborne illness is being investigated. This device could provide an answer in an hour, as opposed to sending food off to a lab to check days later. Or, a factory could use it to keep more real time tracking of the food they’re making since a lot of foodborne illness starts there. One hour of delay is still pretty good since the food is tracked and likely wouldn’t have left the factory by then.

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        1 year ago

        I wish they would produce a home version. I lost my sense of smell over 10 years ago and I struggle with figuring out if something is off or not.

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        1 year ago

        Yeah good for mass checking. But then, why shape like a nose which likes a consumer product move?

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      1 year ago

      No one is going to be using this at home. And if they were, just plan ahead.

  • Darryl_Lict@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    Smell-O-Vision! I’m thinking that we can hook this up to Musk’s neurolink and smell his farts in real time! I actually went and saw John Water’s Polyester and I think I still have the scratch and sniff Odor-Rama card.

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    1 year ago

    1hr could be calc time and not that you hold meat under it for an hour. This bit seems important.

    Meanwhile, fellow AI expert, Kjell Carlisson of San Francisco-based Domino Data Lab, says that the e-noses would need complicated fine tuning for each facility they were working at. “This is an extraordinarily difficult task in an industry not known for embracing new technologies,” he says.

    even without that, business wouldnt adopt unless they see a lot of savings from not having spoiled meat in the deli, but you know we are pretty good detectors ourselves. Yeah this might be better but we are calculating if its better even for the cost and training and use. Then you add all this on top… vaporware, sorry but it is. Until it can be taken out of a box and turned on, its vaporware as far as this goes.

    • GallifreyFNM@alien.topB
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      The beverage industry already uses these pretty intensively, alongside human sensory testing. I might be wrong, but I think the development here is connecting it to AI to help detect things faster and more accurately. With similar technology already widely used, it may not be as daunting a task as you might think.

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    1 year ago

    So it smells spoiled food…and then you carry the nose around like a metal detector and hold it up to every single food item? Or just throw out all the fresh food?

    • SmGo@alien.topB
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      1 year ago

      that is mankind future, were doomed to fight over stuff buried in the desert forever.