I can’t get this to work on an ASUS Z790-E board. I tried both the ASUS DTT drivers and someone suggested trying the ASROCK DTT drivers. The ASROCK ones installed just fine but the apo app still says failed to connect
This feature is a lot like DLSS1; was cool to follow and for some of us early adopters to trial, but not something anyone should be basing any serious discussion/evaluation on
- from someone that updated every RTX gen specially for DLSS
Glad I went with AMD, I knew Intel would fuck that shit up one way or another, they don’t care about the consumer space, they care about the server market and nothing else.
Isn’t this basically a thread scheduler fix that makes E cores do what they are actually supposed to do?
And they are reserving this fix for 14th gen only for, seemingly, no reason? With a good chance that they had this fix for a while, but management decided to reserve it for 14th gen?
This is what I’m reading from their reply to HUB.
Gotta sell all those 14th gen CPUs somehow.
Joke’s on you, my intel 12100 doesn’t have any E-cores!
I also went for a 12400 over more expensive options at the time because not only was it good value, I also wasn’t interested in the experience of being an early adopter for mixing different cores on Wintel.
AVX-512 still disabled though?
The insanity that after 3 generations. Windows kernel still can’t priorotise P-E core usage in games and background desktops. parking them still gives them better results. AMD cache was kinda acceptable on 7950x3d vs 7800x3d debait because games cant utilise that much cores anyway.
And its that all that bios and mobo hoops you have to go through to be compatible for 2 titles.
Intel mostly abandoned ship on any gaming competitiveness. The clock speeds and high tgp is at least has its use in workloads
Intel at this point abandoned ship on any gaming competitiveness.
These takes are insane. Like what kind of thermal paste are you eating?
Zen 4 vs 13th/14th gen, Intel wins in gaming. It’s only Zen 4 x3D that edges Intel out, and only by a few percent at 720p and 1080p. Saying they abandoned gaming competitiveness is not even remotely true.
https://www.reddit.com/r/hardware/comments/17ej64v/intel_raptor_lake_refresh_14th_core_gen_meta/
*By a few percent while sipping 100W less power.
Funny how this matters more in CPUs than GPUs
GPUs have their own cooler to compenstate for pricing msrp. And AMD this generation offers much better pricing and performance (rander) with a 50 watts power delta.Intel just has worse performance and worse thermal performance. Also GPUs usually idle and throttle close to 80 degrees.while cpus get very hot spots.
GPU’s are piss easy to cool, the giant bare dies make it so much easier to extract heat from when compared to CPUs which have relatively tiny dies with awful thermal paste transferring the heat to a stupid heat spreader, which finally makes it into the cooler.
“I asked them is there a technical reason for why 12th and 13thgen Parts aren’t supported and if not will they be included in the future? their response to that question was as follows: Intel has no plans to support prior generations of products with application optimization. That’s a really garbage response to be perfectly blunt about it.”
Yeah, let’s have people rush to upgrade to 14th gen when it already had questionable value to upgrade. This APO feature will die in obscurity since Intel will realize 14th gen is not being adopted and unless they want a repeat of XeSS, they will cut their losses and decide not to invest resources into a feature that barely anyone uses.
Not being adopted? Dell, HP, Lenovo, will slowly stop selling 13th gen and move on to 14th gen, like they do every year. Businesses will buy the computers with the biggest number gen, as they do. Gamers on reddit aren’t the huge market you may think it is for these companies.
Incredible people don’t realize the gamer isn’t the average consumer, innit?
Intel’s E cores doing what they are supposed to on 2 games and 2 years after their debut, and only on their newest cpu lineup, peak Intel engineering right here
It’s the exact opposite of what you’re saying.
Intel’s E-cores + Thread Director work perfectly fine 98% of the time, but there are edge cases where the Windows Scheduler cant get it right, even with the hints from Thread Director, and that’s where APO comes in, to manually force the correct scheduling.
Also lets not pretend that AMD isnt suffering scheduling issues themselves, the 7950x3D and 7900x3D are shunned because they have WORSE scheduling in games as they rely on the Windows Scheduler to just try and figure things out itself, and that doesnt usually work with 2 CCD’s with one having a higher frequency and the other more cache.
Importantly, you think the fix will come for 12/13 gen Intel? You seem to know what you are talking about.