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It sounds kind of rude but it’s the truth and realising the ceiling is the first step to push beyond it.
I’m not entirely sure if the club wants to realise this too though, the last transfer window was far from convincing.
Feels more like settling to me but it can be kind of disheartening when it happens every other season.
Like how do you make the Ruhrpott attractive to star players when they dont 100% identify with the mentality and the people there knowing that you can pay well but you cant pay Man City/Real Madrid well, knowing you’re able to compete for most titles but chances of winning are a different story?
On top of that individual ambitions will always be better realised at the behemoth clubs like chance for ballon d’or, individual sponsoring and contracts etc
Then there is the lifestyle and glamour factor too which you also cant ignore, especially when there is partners or family involved.
Tbh I always saw your club BVB like NXT in WWE. In WWE NXT is a developmental brand where wrestlers go to develop before moving on to Raw or Smackdown. Sometimes the brand does really well that it is the highlight of WWE but it is usually always seen as a place where people develop to go for bigger things.
BVB attracts so many good young prospects that end up having big careers in football but most of them never stay at BVB and instead use it to springboard for a much bigger club. I think if BVB wants to raise the ceiling they need to make it attractive for players to stay and not see it as a springboard but instead a club they can win titles in.
Based on his…one season? The season in which Kane set the record for number of different games scored in, in a shite Tottenham side, after smashing it for years anyway. Gimme a break.
He’s a flat track bully that loves to put them away from 6 yards.
Yeah it’s quite a difficult situation for Dortmund. Winning last year or anything in general and regularly would help tremendously. The Ruhr Region is a big push factor for players as well. Paying higher wages is untenable and could mean financial suicide so I understand Watzke and co. A real golden generation of homegrown talent seems like the most probable push for Dortmund imo
But they didn’t stay which is proving my point
I mean, a similar thing can be said about Bellingham.
Im not saying he didnt outgrew us as a club. Im saying the idea that he outgrow the ambitions of the rest of the squad, as if they dont wanna be the best or whatever is baseless and odd to say tbh.
Bild also isnt known to be wellconnected to us.
Thats not to say I dont believe that Bellingham possibly had issues etc, but historically it should be pointed out that Bild is a wack source for us and our internal ongoings.
The fact that you mention that Bild also attributed adeyemis dip in form to his new girlfriend proves my point about their habit of conjecture. Its literally an incel angle that is dumb as shit. It can only be attributed to Adeyemi… not his girlfriend. Its HIS responsibility to balance worklife and private life. HIS responsibility to remain focused and perform. Even if she’s a controversial high profile person, its HIM that thats responsible for his dip in form and should be attributed for the dip in form.
Bild is a gossip-mag in both these cases, objectively speaking.
Im not disagreeing with Jude outgrowing us or the possibility that some of his antics might have annoyed others in the team.
Yeah dude Vinicious, Mbappe and Haaland have fallen off a cliff these past few… days
Haaland can maybe reach R9 levels of scoring skill.
But he doesn’t really have the chance creation that CR7 did have. And well, no one will ever match Messi in being able to create goals out of thin air.
The whole thing is so dumb. Everybody knows that theoretical throne is open but the two of them reached arguably the highest individual levels that any player has ever hit and maintained it there or abouts for a good 10 years.
You can’t realise something and suddenly hit the levels of the greatest players of all time, they are all obviously trying to reach that but if you could do it by just wanting to then I’m sure we wouldn’t have had to wait 30/50 years to find people capable of competing with pele and Maradona for the title of the best to ever do it.
He could win 20 golden boots and that still wouldn’t mean he reached CR7’s level. Hilarious how some think for some reason that it is somehow easier to beat Ronaldo as opposed to Messi. Unless someone new comes along and manages to win at least 5 Balons d’Or I’m sorry, but those 2 are pretty clearly unreachable.
It’s also a spot almost always reserved for forwards which Jude isn’t, he would have to be maradona levels to get there and whilst I absolutely love him it would be an absolutely insane comparison to make lol
If you say that Mbappe will score in the final of 2026, I’ll buy that first than Bellingham.
Man, France really looks strong already.
People need to remember that CR7 and Messi are outliers.
It will be a long time before we see someone get to that level, and to an extent it’s arguable that they only got as good due to each other.
I completely agree. But if they are saying “Messi/Cristiano’s throne” then they are comparing them to the goats themselves.
I don’t know what the obsession with Haaland is on this sub. Great player but theymre really trying to force this unanimous best in the world
He’s not the unanimous best player.
He is an incredibly good scorer. It’s the kind of player that changes a game.
It’s why everyone puts Ronaldo Fenomeno in their XI, because he was the best finisher, you could count on him turning a game with his physicality and finishing.
CR7 and Messi are outliers and people should remember that. Only two players in all history have been that gamebreaking.
Haaland couldn’t lace Ronaldo Fenomeno’s boots, which is sort of what I’m getting at. He had so much about him apart from being a finisher, and it’s those skills that set apart Haaland from the best.
Do you feel Haaland’s contribution when he isn’t scoring is equivalent to those two players?
The greatest of the greatest are having games like his on Sunday?
Yes? Even Messi and Ronaldo had legit 0/10 games.
Hell, I remember Messi being a cone in the CL and Ronaldo having longer goal droughts than Haaland ever had.
I thought Shearer had 34 in a 42 game season? Same as Andy Cole. Whereas Haaland 36 in a 38 game season?
Dixie Dean, Jimmy Greaves, and whole bunch of other players still scored more than all of them - but most of those records are from the 1920s and the game was presumably a bit different then.
And the all time English record is held by Greaves. Don’t be pedantic, you knew they meant season.
According to Google Shearer had 31 🤔