• gedaliyah@lemmy.worldEnglish
        6·
        10 days ago

        Also a great choice. I prefer organic maps for a variety of reasons (like ability to contribute to the maps), but a lot of people prefer OsmAnd. They are both very good.

      • superkret@feddit.orgEnglish
        4·
        10 days ago

        Organic Maps has fewer features and settings, a more stripped-down user interface, and concentrates on what most people use the most (find an address, navigate to it).
        It is also much, much faster than OsmAnd.
        Personally, I find OsmAnd too slow and clunky, and Organic Maps a bit too basic.
        But I prefer Organic Maps 95% of the time.

      • oxf@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        3·
        9 days ago

        OsmAnd is the Swiss army knife of Open Street Map frontends, but as I’m sure you’ll agree on (if you’ve used it), it can be a bit of a headache setting it up, as well as getting familiar with it.

        Organic Maps caters more to people seeking a pure alternative to Google/Apple Maps. It’s the layman’s alternative.

        If you’re a poweruser, and already familiar with OsmAnd, there’s no point in switching. But in terms of getting other, non tech savvy, people to switch, it’s a great recommendation!

  • Laser@lemmy.caEnglish
    885·
    11 days ago

    What a bunch of cucks! The billionaires have fully taken over!

    • DarkFuture@lemmy.worldEnglish
      3·
      10 days ago

      Bingo.

      Imagine getting every “alpha male” 2A nutjob violent conservative to realize who their actual enemy is.

      We’d get some actual positive change in an extremely short period of time.

  • GnuLinuxDude@lemmy.mlEnglish
    41·
    10 days ago

    This whole thing is extremely cringe. There isn’t any other way to put it. Trump. His executive order. The compliance. It’s all cringe.

    • Eagle0110@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1·
      10 days ago

      Though to be fair cringe is like right in the very blood to Google anyway so what would you expect…

      I mean, just look at how they often respond on their bug tracker platform of most of their products and how they try to justify their endless streams of questionable design decisions, that seems to be characteristic of them at this point lol

  • ramjambamalam@lemmy.caEnglish
    35·
    11 days ago

    The change reflects Google’s policy of adhering to official government names for geographical locations.

    OK, so why am I seeing Gulf of Mexico (Gulf of America) from Canada?

    • Tattorack@lemmy.worldEnglish
      23·
      10 days ago

      Same here in Europe.

      This is highly irregular for several reasons:

      Google adheres to official government positions, yes, but as far as I’m aware the American government hasn’t made the name change official yet. Members of the government have said that they’d do this, but I don’t think this idea has passed any process yet. So then why is Google “updated” their maps?

      When Google adheres to official government positions, they are local. In example, when you’re in China and look up Taiwan, it’ll appear as part of China. In other countries it’ll appear as either an independent country or a disputed territory, depending on that government’s official position on the matter. What we DON’T see is something like “Taiwan (China)”, as Google supposedly has no intention on forcing the policies of one government upon another government, and as far as I’m aware the rest of the world hasn’t agreed to changing The Gulf of Mexico to The Gulf of America.

      • rmuk@feddit.ukEnglish
        8·
        10 days ago

        If anyone’s interested, here’s what it looks like in Europe. The good news: this is the first time I’ve had to use Google Maps in a loooong time (ignoring embedded maps in other sites). OpenStreetMap is wonderful and there are some superb apps powered by it, including the ever-excellent Organic Maps.

        • Tattorack@lemmy.worldEnglish
          1·
          9 days ago

          Unfortunately Organic Maps doesn’t really work well. I gave it a shot yesterday at work (I work food delivery on bicycle), and it couldn’t find half the addresses I needed to go to.

    • tal@lemmy.todayEnglish
      15·
      11 days ago

      If Justin Trudeau gets active on this, you can probably get it to Gulf of Canada (Gulf of Mexico) (Gulf of America).

    • afronaut@lemmy.cafeEnglish
      6·
      10 days ago

      From the Wikipedia for Gulf of Mexico:

      While the Interior Department confirmed that the Gulf of America name was effective for U.S. federal agencies, on January 24, the change does not apply in an international context.

  • DarkFuture@lemmy.worldEnglish
    29·
    10 days ago

    Next president, assuming there is one, will just change it back to repair relations with our allies.

    Even if it never gets changed back, it’ll be a generation before people actually start calling it that. No one alive now is going to give a fuck about the Gulf of America or call it that.

    Hey conservatives, not that you’re intelligent enough to figure out how to get on Lemmy, but if by some miracle one of you reads this, why is Trump doing this and floating invading our allies and annexing their territories instead of lowering the price of groceries as promised on day 1?

  • gedaliyah@lemmy.worldEnglish
    28·
    10 days ago

    Had to check.

    Slowly working towards a viable OpenStreetMap in my area. If you want to help, you can make a free account and begin editing: https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/new

    You can also contribute on mobile by using Street Complete or any number of great mobile apps that allow limited editing and full map features like Organic Maps

    Edit: I didn’t know about Vespucci, which is a full-featured OSM editor for Android. Thanks, @onyxjet@lemmy.world

    Also be sure to check out !open_street_maps@lemmy.world

    • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      11·
      11 days ago

      Did the same in my area. The roads are good, but the businesses are either missing or outdated. I probably added 100 over the last few months.

      It’s kinds fun! When I go out, I check OM and see what’s missing, take some pictures, and then go edit a bunch of stuff that night. It doesn’t take long, and I feel like it’s worth my time.

    • onyxjet@lemmy.worldEnglish
      6·
      10 days ago

      Vespucci is also full editor for android.

      There is also Go Map! A primary editor for IOS.

      Every door is a mobile editor that allows you to add new things and edit existing ones.

      ID is the main OpenStreetMap website editor.

      Rapid, essentially just ID but with a special edition of automatic building suggestions and such or what they call mapwithai.

      JOSM a full on editor for desktop, does everything ID or Rapid can do and a whole lot more. Its more of an advanced editor.

    • freeman@feddit.orgEnglish
      4·
      10 days ago

      Street Complete is amazing! Perfect for people who find going on a walk too boring, like me

    • FergleFFergleson@infosec.pubEnglish
      4·
      11 days ago

      Thanks for providing that link. I knew about OSM, but didn’t fully grasp that (duh) it’s open which means I can help with the data. Time to get busy! :)

    • Allero@lemmy.todayEnglish
      4·
      11 days ago

      Recently began contributing to OpenStreetMap. Information on my place is quite outdated, lots of work to do!

  • Vanth@reddthat.comEnglish
    25·
    11 days ago

    Huh, do they really change names of international things when only one party says so?

    Denali/McKinely is one thing, it’s part of the US. But the Gulf of Mexico is a mix of US, Mexico, Cuba, and international waters. I wonder what they show Google Maps users who are in Mexico.

    • marcos@lemmy.worldEnglish
      16·
      10 days ago

      They have clear rules for contested areas… that they follow in an as clear way as their user support rules.

    • VicksVaporBBQrub@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      3·
      10 days ago

      I found this paragraph…

      Can Trump change the name of the Gulf of Mexico? Maybe, but it’s not a unilateral decision, and other countries don’t have to go along. The International Hydrographic Organization — of which both the US and Mexico are members — works to ensure all the world’s seas, oceans and navigable waters are surveyed and charted uniformly, and also names some of them. There are instances where countries refer to the same body of water or landmark by different names in their own documentation.

      From this webpage… https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/can-trump-change-the-name-of-the-gulf-of-mexico-to-gulf-of-america

    • fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
      11·
      10 days ago

      Naming things is complicated.

      It’s not really a case where some organisation has the authority to name something. Rather people just call something a name, and organisations adopt that name.

  • cmhe@lemmy.worldEnglish
    23·
    10 days ago

    Interesting discussion about this on the OpenStreetMap forums.

    The resolution is introducing “official_name” tags, referencing “en_us”, because “en” is not just the U.S.:

    https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/gulf-of-america-gulf-of-mexico/124571/11

    So when OsmAnd or OrganicMaps start to support them, maybe your locale settings will change the displayed name there as well.

    Current description of that node: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/305639190/history/80

    So maybe that could be a reason for everyone around the world to stop using en_US locale settings. XD

  • the_doktor@lemmy.zipEnglish
    181·
    11 days ago

    Send a complaint through the site. Flood them with complaints about how they are an evil corporation licking Trump’s boot and that it’s the Gulf of Mexico.

    Don’t let these damn corporations win.

    • Railcar8095@lemm.eeEnglish
      121·
      11 days ago

      You do you, but that is literally yelling at a cloud.

      Stop using Google services altogether, delete your accounts. Block ads. That’s the only way to cost them some pennies.