• ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
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      5 hours ago

      I don’t really have any special hate for Telegram myself, and I never saw it as a secure communication platform. I have more problem with Signal because people treat it like it’s paragon of privacy and security.

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      10 hours ago

      What seems crazy to me is how many people they managed to convince that they were private when they most definitely are not.

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        Any criminal with half a brain knew what’s up

        Brain dead normies lapring edge lord on there were just useful idiots for their handlers

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    Welp then I think we have to sue them to oblivion S/ But really can’t blame most people whose Are Accustomed to using TeleGram And WhatsUp

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    This is a difficult topic for me. On the one hand, I believe everyone has a right to privacy and we need to fight for that right. On the other hand, I’m enough of an adult to understand that law enforcement needs to be able to effectively investigate criminal activity. There has to be a middle ground there, somewhere. I just don’t know where that is.

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      9 hours ago

      If they actually wanted to do something about child abuse they’d go after the conserative scum who have historically supported it and still do. Its the ones that vote for far right parties, are anti higher-ed, pro homeschooling, anti secularism, pro religious indoctrination, anti feminist, anti age of consent laws, anti sex ed, anti criminalisation of marital rape, anti combating domestic violence, pro child marriages etc instead they are constantly trying to attack human’s right to privacy which only exist on paper.

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        But isn’t advocating for the privacy of criminals the same as advocating for the crime, itself? Sure, let’s go after the politicians…but are you REALLY okay with letting child molesters, etc. hide their activities from law enforcement online? Like I said, there has to be a middle ground. We just need to find it.

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          “Child molesters etc” have been online since the internet has existed and very little is done about it. They have also been active offline and very little is done about that too. If they wanted to go after them they would. They don’t, because it is not in their interest to. The threats they will go after are people they disagree with and who their higher ups want targeted. You are always in more danger from authorities than “bad guys” are.

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      It’s the warrant process and true encryption. If the cops think you’ve done something bad, they go and get a warrant. The provider turns over what they have, which should just be account info and metadata. Then the cops do good old fashioned police work and get a warrant for your personal stuff which they’ll seize and analyze.

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      There exist no middle ground.

      If able to invade privacy of child abuser, able to invade privacy of any person. Then your “privacy” only is trust in authority to not abuse that not actually have privacy.

      How that end you can see in china.