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- android@lemdro.id
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Anyone using Lineage? How is it?
I’ve got a Pixel 7 and have been wondering
Upgrading android versions did a surprise factory reset for me. Never used it again after that.
Custom Roms are only viable if official android support has dropped and you are no longer getting upgrades.
To be honest I do not see any reason to use Lineage with Pixel while there is GrapheneOS… But maybe there will be some users of it: it is always better to have more free open OS
The only use case i guess if you prefer microG implementation v sandboxed GPS.
I think GOS model will end up being proven right from security/privacy perspective but the debate is ongoing.
GOS chief should not be in any public facing communication position though… that weaponized autism with heavy dose of paranoia is what is needed to develop GOS but not a good look objectively, and I give people a lot benefit of doubt.
its alright, it kept my “supposed to be dead” phone to keep on running with latest stuff, i like the built in firewall, but if you’re privicy focused then this is not for you.
It’s annoying to upgrade between whole number android versions.
I used it extensively ony Samsung Galaxy S4 until Android 9 or 11. Was very good (model jflte(xx))
I was planning to move to Lineage, and eventually GrapheneOS (non Pixel at the moment) but revolut has broken compatibility by enforcing the use of the Play Integrity API, revolut is my main bank so I’m kinda blocked, for now… 🤬
I dont get why anyone would use LineageOS on a phone that new and that well supported by custom roms (GraphineOS, /e/os, etc)
I like lineageOS more, because GrapheneOS includes google play, even while sandboxed i don’t like that
By default no, you install it later (as a sandboxed app)
yeah but i like microG and i read it isnt supported
True But maybe might be helpful if the phone hits EOL?
At that point using it will be less secure, the reason why GraphineOS stops supporting devices is because they focus on security. In addition the Pixel 9 will be EOL in what eight years from now? Maybe even more
How safe is Lineage?
Their devs dont really care about security so id say its not safe at all.
Any source on this?
Lineage allows people to have newer android/security patches on end-of-life phones, that’s a pretty good security argument.
That first link talks about how it requires an unlocked bootloader, therefore verified boot is disabled and the device is less secure.
While that is true, I think that’s a bit of an unfair thing to hold against it considering on most Android phones, you need to unlock the bootloader to run anything the OEM doesn’t approve, and most vendors do not support installing your own keys.
That should be a criticism against the OEM for forcing you to weaken the security of the device to have full control over it, not Lineage. That is not really their fault.
I think it would be nice of them to mention that the signing keys being held by the OEM and the OEM only is a massive security (and freedom!) weakness on it’s own, and that without being able to sign everything yourself, you can’t really be certain of the security of your device, as you cannot control everything on it.
GrapheneOS
how safe is google?
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I connect my glucometer (Dexcom G6) with my phone and I’m assuming lineage wouldn’t work with it.
Lineage is just Android, however, some apps (Usually banking apps are the worst offender) throw a fit running on rooted/custom roms, though it’s usually bypass able with varying amounts of effort. I would not expect a glucometer app to have issues, but I’ve seen apps throw that fit for less in the past.
Being a medical thing, I’d advise you to pickup a cheap used Android phone that’s also on the supported list to test out your app first, or at least have an alternative means of monitoring it
I did some Google searching and it came up… inconclusive, though the Dexcom website has this blurb on the compatible phones section
“You can use this app on any OS that meets the minimum requirements, but Dexcom recommends not updating to a new OS before it’s listed here.”
And the only minimum requirement for Android is that it’s v10. I also didn’t see mention of root/or “unauthorized OSes” on that page and alot of the times they will put something like that if a companies app will scan for root/custom roms
So, you might be fine
Does NFC still work? (I know that low key defeats the purpose of a privacy oriented android build but yeah)
Yes, NFC the technology works. However, certain applications, like Google Wallet can be problematic and require workarounds (not because of technology itself though)
I know that low key defeats the purpose of a privacy oriented android build but yeah
Not everyone using a custom ROM is doing it for privacy reasons. I see privacy as a perk but I mainly use custom ROMs to keep my devices around longer and to get new features.
Even for those who are concerned about privacy, I don’t think NFC is that big of a security hole. I know some people who turn it on only when they’re using it, but that’s pretty painless.
Yeah I did that with an old Motorola, it went for years. Now I have a pixel and it seems to come with a lot of features that break when installing an alternative OS
afaik it should. but why do you think NFC defeats privacy? it is quite short range, isn’t it? having google services is much worse
Well, I was mostly concerned about google knowing where I’m shopping. I know using google pay is lazy buy I’m not perfect…
oh google pay, I see. but that’s not NFC’s fault, it’s useful for other things too.
speaking about it, I’m not sure google pay will work. but I never used it, so I don’t know for sure, but there’s this suspicion after what banks do
Last time I checked there was a relatively narrow selection of phones the Dexcom app works with. Pretty much just iphone, galaxy, and pixel. I just checked again and there’s a lot more now, so maybe it’ll work?
I’d give it about a 70% chance of just working
Out of curiosity, why do you think it wouldn’t work?
It already only works on a pretty narrow selection of android phones. It seems like the Dexcom app is very picky.
Yeah… That’s how I initially got it to work on my pixel 6 pro. Since then they started supporting it.
Does it support flashing from web browser?
that’s not a feature of the ROM. that’s a tool provided by ROM maintainers. that being said, it almost certainly supports it, as in in someone makes a website that does that, it will be possible.
now, don’t get me started on how bad of an idea it is to use webusb
don’t get me started on how bad of an idea it is to use webusb
I will get you started. Please explain.
there is no way to verify the downloaded package before installation.
also I generally deem both webusb, and chrome’s broader filesystem access apis dangerous, partly because a vulnerability in the website permission checking code with this permission is much worse than with e.g. the camera.
but the more realirealistic problem is that its just too easy to grant a random website so deep permissions to your device, either by accident, by habit or because the user does not understand what is happening. just a click or two and you have just granted a ransom website full access to your drive. with webusb, they can even write a bootable anything to your pendrive.my concern here is not that you cannot make sure that the graphene website will only do what it needs to, but that the feature exists at all, because of all the other websites. I sincerely bless mozilla for not implementing these.
