And cover any identifiable tattoos.
Get some fake tattoos and put a rock in your shoe too.
Don’t wear any clothes you wear elsewhere or bought in a way that can be tracked back to you.
I don’t remember where I read it, but apparently the rock in shoe thing doesn’t work all that well.
What is the rock in the shoe thing? Never heard that one
It alters your gait.
Could just wear 1 regular shoe and 1 platform heel instead of hurting your foot. 🤷🏻♂️
Surely that’s just another method for hurting your foot
Holy shit I actually did tell my daughter not to bring her phone to the protest.
May I know what’s the reason to not bring your phone? Is it due to concerns of being tracked?
Basically, yes. Plus, it may be unconstitutionally searched if you are detained.
Yes. Even when your phone is powered down, some models still ping cell towers. If it pings one, they know your distance to the tower. If it pings two, both towers know your distance, and the overlapping circles would reveal two positions coordinates, one of which you were at. With some contextual information, it’s easy to know/prove which one you were at.
If it pings 3 towers, your exact location, and unique identifying information sucha as your phone’s IMEI is revealed. So don’t bring a cell.
Corporates are even bold enough to brand this as a nice to have feature, they call it “find my device” I think? But we can totally trust them to keep this data absolutely private and secure ! /s
Samsung actually offers e2e encryption for location data using a pin code but unfortunately it’s disabled by default for some reason. also only available for phones, not other pingable devices like wireless earbuds
Well, e2e encryption doesn’t give you any guaranty if the encryption and communication protocols are proprietary and you didn’t set the encryption key(s) all by yourself. Samsung could very well have the private keys to decrypt the data and give it to anyone they wish.
it’s symmetrical encryption so the pin code is the private key, (or er, the key’s derived from it)
but also Samsung still gets the network address of the repotting device which can be used to get approximate location
interesting description of triangulation
Yeah I know of triangulation. Just didn’t know if that was the concern.
I don’t think that’s really the concern - I think OP was thinking of general metadata that can cause authorities to identify who was there, where exactly and when, and who was also with them - this is power authoritarians wishes they had for a thousands of years, and here we are…
I think OP was thinking of general metadata that can cause authorities to identify who was there, where exactly and when, and who was also with them
Absolutely. Just look at all the shit available to them:
https://www.uscellular.com/content/dam/uscc-static/assets/pdfs/LERGv1.0.pdf
Surprised to see nobody has mentioned Banksy’s “Mother and Anarchist”, this is pretty close to it.
There’s no way this isn’t a reference to that. The mom is essentially just traced over.
Thanks for sharing the picture, i should have done that 😅
Fun /s facts i learned recently about Banksy:
- intentionally does art near low income neighborhoods, thus gentrifying them to all hell
- he built a hotel 4 miles away from the Gaza Strip that trivialized everything Palestine was going through for the past 78 years, and told a story of how the genocide is “a nuanced and debatable issue”
i actually know people like this, i love my life
Aww, some people have the sweetest parents :3
I wonder, when are you supposed to put on your mask, at the protest, on the way there, when getting out of home?
On the way home I’d think
On the way there I would think.
At the protest I would think
On the way there, I would think.
what’s on the parent’s right bicep? it looks like the three arrows but mashed up with the big line go up
It’s the squatter’s symbol
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Goddamn it, you’d think the OP’s name would give it away let alone you cautioning us. I assumed it was a rick roll
Like, I get the point, but if you are too much of a coward to put your face with the cause, I am automatically assuming you don’t really care and just want the attention
But with a mask on and no phone pics, how are you going to get that attention?
The mass of people chanting and holding signs is usually enough to draw the required attention. That’s kinda the point.
I thought the commentor meant the OP pic person was doing it for personal attention. Not attention for a cause.
Not at all
Wait, I think I misunderstood you.
Maybe attention isn’t the right word, basically I feel like you don’t actually support the cause, you just want to pretend you do.
The people who actually care are willing to take those punishments and the sheer fact that they are willing to do so is what shows they care.
Not showing yourself, shows a lack of dedication to your cause, you aren’t willing to sacrifice, other than some time, you won’t have any permanent consequences.
It’s a “put your money where your mouth is thing.”
They want to pretend they care to make themselves feel like they are doing something, but not sign their name for the cause.
I mean, if they arrest you that impedes your ability to continue protesting. There are reasons other than a lack of dedication to keep your identity protected.
The fact that you aren’t willing to take that hit shows a lack of belief in the importance of the cause.
Obviously it matters to you, a little at least and for various different reasons, because you are out there, but the people that really care about their causes are full in their support of them.
It’s like how so many people say they support something, but aren’t willing to sign their name to the petition.
I mean, if you’re out there at all you’re risking taking a hit (quite literally). Like, when you go to one of these protests you could be slammed to the ground, tear gassed, shot, or arrested. If you’re willing to risk that I’d say you’re pretty dedicated.
I think it’s reasonable, even tactically advantageous to keep your identity protected. You’re never going to accomplish much with one protest, and if everyone gets arrested on bullshit charges after the first one it’s much harder to organize a second one.
No, anarchists don’t force others to take arrest risks they’re not willing to. Everyone has their own tolerances and they can support the cause in their own way. Stop trying to pressure people.
there’s a difference between being willing to take an arrest and getting arrested for something stupid. that’s like saying that the point of an army is being willing to die for your country, so the best and bravest are the ones who enlist and then immediately commit suicide. be willing to take a hit, but be strategic about the hits you take and avoid taking a hit for no good reason. it’s about getting the thing done, not proving that you’re super legit.
What’s the point of putting yourself at risk for no tangible benefit?
The tangible benefit is getting more normies like me to join your cause.
That’s the point of the protest isn’t it?
Is the possibility of winning you over worth removing someone who is already actively involved? Are you more likely to join a protest if the risks and consequences you face are higher? What about all the people who have already been arrested for protesting recently - has that motivated you to get out and join them?
The fact is that tons of people, especially in the US, love to sit on the sidelines critiquing every protest for whatever arbitrary reason and will insist that they’d be won over if only they did something differently. But then, if they do things differently, they’ll just find another reason to complain, because that’s all they actually care to do.
I’ve never understood this prevailing viewpoint you expressed that protests are meant to get more people to join a cause. The point of a protest is to assert disruptive force and to threaten to assert further force. If you see a group of people gathered together doing stuff and happen to think it’s cool for whatever reason, cool, sure, whatever. But it’s not about you. Protests are not candidates that you decide whether to vote for or not. The point is to communicate to those in power, “We have to capability to get this many people out and organized, and we are going to be a pain in your ass until you give into our demands.”
I mean yeah, but (at least in the US) cops have a habit of trampling your rights to protest. Even if you did nothing illegal they can (and will) still harass you after the fact for bullshit, made-up reasons.
They’ll assault you in the moment too, but protecting your identity won’t protect you from that.
Agreed
the attention you won’t get because your identity is not known?
Hmm, I hadn’t thought about it that way, NOIWONTPICKANAME.
I guess you don’t really care about this comment either, then, and are just doing it for attention.
It’s literally the only benefit, I get attention for what I say directly attached to how much effort and show I put out.
I also expect that if I had put my name to it, it would indeed show my dedication.
That’s why I sign petitions with my real name and this shit with my funny name.
That and I really like funny usernames, they make me happy, and I assume they do others as well.
I haven’t told anyone how to protest, I merely told you what I thought about the ones that don’t show their faces
CaaB
Cowardace as a Benefit
This is privilege talking, you should read Little Brother by Cory Doctorow.
Blah blah blah. You can’t throw the word privilege around for everything.
Don’t get me wrong, I have plenty of it, but the poor and rich, white and black all bonded together unmasked before.
you’re anonymous because you want attention
Maybe attention isn’t the right word, basically I feel like you don’t actually support the cause, you just want to pretend you do.
The people who actually care are willing to take those punishments and the sheer fact that they are willing to do so is what shows they care.
Not showing yourself, shows a lack of dedication to your cause, you aren’t willing to sacrifice, other than some time, you won’t have any permanent consequences.
It’s a “put your money where your mouth is thing.”
They want to pretend they care to make themselves feel like they are doing something, but not sign their name for the cause.
There’s actually an old anti-kkk law in Ohio they’ve been talking about still enforcing, it says if three or more people commit a misdemeanor together while concealing their identity it becomes a felony. It would be interesting to see how that played out in court today.
